Ah, now doesn't that make you feel proud?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.express.co...ts/view/250692/250692

/// Amman, 30, who claims to come from Afghanistan, said: “If we try to claim asylum in France we are treated like dogs. Nobody respects us and we are beaten by the police.///

/// “The British system is completely different. Money is available and people are friendly. We will be given asylum and we can find jobs and houses. My aim is to bring my family over from Afghanistan once I am settled.” ///

It would appear then that France isn't bogged down with Europe's bill on Human Rights then, so perhaps that is where we are going wrong?

[Answerprancer]

Yep indeed it does, not one to be overcome with jingoism, it is nice to see stories like this. Thanks for posting.

[anotheoldgit]

I think someone should start a charity such as 'Support an Immigrant' maybe?

It would save those taxpayers who disagree with economic immigration from 'forking out' all the time.

And make those who agree with unlimited acceptance, feeling more personally involved and more public spirited.

Just a few ideas to be going on with,

Those who adopt a economic refugee, could let them share their home, thus releasing more housing stock for our own young couples.

Maybe,They would be good enough to feed and cloth them, provide them with a mobile phone, pay for their taxi fares, until such times when they could supply them with their own 'set of wheels', pay double NHS contributions and school fees for their children.

Now that would be a saving for the taxpayer, surely?

[Kathyan]

So our lads and lasses are fighting for them and they are all coming over here.

[Ric.ror]

Yes it makes me very proud that we can treat people who have nothing or next to nothing with a little dignity
Does not stop me wanting to deport asylum seekers who commit serious crimes though

[Safiya]

///thus releasing more housing stock for our own young couples///

The state of the housing some of them are allocated I'm sure 'our' young couples wouldn't want them rent free.

and yes I too feel proud we can help people when they need help.

[bazwillrun]

I fail to see what there is to be proud about.....letting in hordes of people and destroying the identity and cultural heritage of a once proud country.

[Answerprancer]

LOL - are you for real ?

[TTG]

Council - "A family of 10 immigrants are moving in next door to you."
Everyone here who supports uncontrolled immigration - "What the f... get those scum out of here."

[ummmm]

Speak for yourself TTG..!

[Answerprancer]

Are you calling them nimbies ? :-)

[New Judge]

AOG has a very valid point.

It is well known that the French authorities do not treat asylum seekers in accordance with the Convention. Instead they prefer to offload to the UK the people who should rightly claim asylum either in France or in countries they have transited earlier.

I am not particularly proud to be offering sustenance to people turning up on our shores when we are unable to properly fund the care of the old and sick here, many of whom have paid in hefty sums in taxes. In fact I’m absolutely fed up with being told we have no cash to properly fund services for which I have paid my taxes (police, prisons, hospitals, transport, defence, education, pensions, etc. etc.) whilst we seem to find endless funds to sustain people who have “fled” here.

Those who are “proud” to be taken for a ride and are so charitable with other people’s money might light to take up AOG’s suggestion. Supporting these incomers should be a charitable exercise funded by those who are proud to be associated with such philanthropy. As AOG suggests they might like to fund the unfortunates more directly. Meanwhile, those of us who are not so filled with pride (and can think of more worthy causes to see our hard-earned spent on) should be allowed to opt out of such largesse.

[emmie]

they say charity begins at home, no it doesn't, sorry, and why should people who have worked, and paid their dues all their lives in Britain, support people who have put absolutely nothing into the country. France has a huge immigration problem, and its not going to get any better, and they will dump more people onto to these shores because they care not a jot for UK. Everytime someone makes a comment like this they get labelled as racist, uncaring, BNP supporter and the like, well i would like someone to tell me how its possible that many elderly in Britain are struggling to make ends meet, when we can dole out money to an endless stream of immigrants, no matter where they come from. I fail to see thats a fair system at all.

[tamborine]

Its the younger workers taxes that keep pensioners. The larger the workforce the higher income the Gov can share out. Hopefully, immigrants will play their part by contributing, I cant see why they wouldn't once they're settled.

The afghans must be fit & hardy if they have travelled so far to get here.

[emmie]

its the older generations, like my mothers, that kept this country safe from Nazi tyranny, so they should garner our care and respect, and how many of todays youngsters actually have jobs to supposedly support the elderly. Has anyone not noticed the infrastructure of Britains housing, social care, schools, and hospitals that are bursting at the seams, we are a nation approaching 70 million, a tiny island, with only so much room, i can't see that France, Germany, and the rest of Europe taking anywhere near the UK's input. And their countries are far larger and could certainly accommodate more people. The south of England is where most immigrants head for, and London the worst affected, time to put a cap on it, but now we are all one big happy family in Europe, thats not about to happen. As to someones suggesting that many immigrants don't get decent housing, think again. Our council had a policy that placed families arriving, above people who have lived here all their lives, words from a friend working in housing in the local council.

[Safiya]

If you mean me by that last comment em10 I didn't say anything about who got housed above anyone else, I said the houses some of them were given are in a bad state. I've seen it first hand so don't need to think again.

[rowanwitch]

I thought the rules for seeking asylum were you claim it after the first safe border... from then on any further move must be consider economic migration We are not the first safe border for anyone travelling by land.... so only those arriving by plane should be able to claim asylum.... however if they apply through proper channels, learn english and work to pay for themselves and their families I don't have a problem. After the second world war we had a large influx of eastern Europeans the vast majority of which were Polish...they assimilated with the existing culture...while maintaining their cultural identity. I guess it was easier for them because they were white and because of the bravery of the Polish forces during the war but I'm told many people still gave them a hard time because they were foreign. But the counrty is much more crowded now, and the social pressures are different.

[espookid]

Well as a Brit living abroad it is interesting to read the comments
I think you forget that we raped and pillaged lots of countries many years ago and that is the root of the problem If all the West Indian and Indian and Pakistani -English subjects - hadn't arrived you would be in the same boat as Finland where I live , you would take a small but significant number
The other point is that a lot of the discontent about the immigrant men not working -well they don't work at home and see no point in doing it in Britain if someone pays them-it is a cultural thing
There has to be an incentive
I say keep them in camps until they ¨work¨ their way out then they wont take good housing stock until they are paying taxes

[boxtops]

I recall hearing that in France a while back you only got benefits for 6 months then if you hadn't got a job by then, you went on a very minimum amount. Unfortunately there is this perception that our streets are still paved with gold, and as we all know, they're not.