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Does it really matter?
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I know this is not really a news question, but since I have recently been criticised on this site for using the wrong term of address, I thought I would post on here in the hope that I may get an answer to my question.
On this mornings radio a presenter was introducing some woman spokesperson.
He started by saying welcome "whatever her name was" who is the Chair Woman of "such and such" an organisation, (please forgive me for not remembering the specific names)
To this introduction the woman rudely announced to the presenter " I do not wish to be called Chair Woman" "Then what do I call you then", asked the presenter, maybe 'Chair person'? No the woman sharply replied 'The Chair' that is what I should be addressed as.
Well the question I must ask is does it really matter, and even if it did was National Radio a suitable place to correct the presenter over such a trivial matter?
On this mornings radio a presenter was introducing some woman spokesperson.
He started by saying welcome "whatever her name was" who is the Chair Woman of "such and such" an organisation, (please forgive me for not remembering the specific names)
To this introduction the woman rudely announced to the presenter " I do not wish to be called Chair Woman" "Then what do I call you then", asked the presenter, maybe 'Chair person'? No the woman sharply replied 'The Chair' that is what I should be addressed as.
Well the question I must ask is does it really matter, and even if it did was National Radio a suitable place to correct the presenter over such a trivial matter?
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I think Old Git is confused between things that are politically correct and things that are simply <correct>
Like getting someone's name and title correct in addressing them as they prefer to be addressed.
Lots of things were bad, prejudicial, unfair and limiting in the <good old days> when we enjoyed rickets, mass inequality and restricted opportunities.
Thankfully we have put many of them right over the years.
If some people struggle to keep up and feel the need to < carry around a dictionary of 'modern' terms> that is unfortunate but just a natural consequence of advanced years and an unwillinness or inability to adapt.
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Like getting someone's name and title correct in addressing them as they prefer to be addressed.
Lots of things were bad, prejudicial, unfair and limiting in the <good old days> when we enjoyed rickets, mass inequality and restricted opportunities.
Thankfully we have put many of them right over the years.
If some people struggle to keep up and feel the need to < carry around a dictionary of 'modern' terms> that is unfortunate but just a natural consequence of advanced years and an unwillinness or inability to adapt.
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I think the woman was rude to make an issue of her preferred form of address on the air - if she has an issue about how to be addressed, she should have mentioned it during the introductions before the interview started.
As far as the actual title goes - i think the title of 'Chair' has less to do with Womens' Lib than the simple evolution of language, which occures all the time, and rarely at the behest of anyone with an agenda in mind.
If people prefer not to have their job title as tgender specific, than that is their eintitlement, but i would again point out that in the case of introductions to be made, it is manners to point it out to your interviewer in advance to avoid any conflict.
If I were particular about my job title - and I'm not - i would make the point discreetly in adnvance of introduction in any public forum, but even if i had done so, and my request was not adhered to, i would think it discourteous to make a point in public, or in this case, on air, i would simply let it go, it's not worth embarassing a complete stranger, and making myself look snooty and pompous as a by-product.
As far as the actual title goes - i think the title of 'Chair' has less to do with Womens' Lib than the simple evolution of language, which occures all the time, and rarely at the behest of anyone with an agenda in mind.
If people prefer not to have their job title as tgender specific, than that is their eintitlement, but i would again point out that in the case of introductions to be made, it is manners to point it out to your interviewer in advance to avoid any conflict.
If I were particular about my job title - and I'm not - i would make the point discreetly in adnvance of introduction in any public forum, but even if i had done so, and my request was not adhered to, i would think it discourteous to make a point in public, or in this case, on air, i would simply let it go, it's not worth embarassing a complete stranger, and making myself look snooty and pompous as a by-product.
Manufactured or Man-made, what do you call an item when it has been made completely by females?
How did the word Manipulation come about, when it is the female of the species that are the past masters at it?
Manhunt, do they call it something different when the police are looking for a woman?
Manhandled, what do they call it when it has to be move by a woman?
Are men only allowed down Man-holes?
How did the word Manipulation come about, when it is the female of the species that are the past masters at it?
Manhunt, do they call it something different when the police are looking for a woman?
Manhandled, what do they call it when it has to be move by a woman?
Are men only allowed down Man-holes?
Old Git - dear o dear
<<How did the word Manipulation come about, when it is the female of the species that are the past masters at it? >>
Manipulate comes from the latin <manipulus> a handful or bundle
which comes from <manus> meaning Hand
Found in English in manual worker etc
Nothing to do with gender
You would have found a classical education a useful aid in helping you understand the English language properly.
<<How did the word Manipulation come about, when it is the female of the species that are the past masters at it? >>
Manipulate comes from the latin <manipulus> a handful or bundle
which comes from <manus> meaning Hand
Found in English in manual worker etc
Nothing to do with gender
You would have found a classical education a useful aid in helping you understand the English language properly.
Zeuhl
You should get a sense of humour before telling people they should get a classical education.
How the hell do you know what education I received, perhaps you would have been better educated by your parents, of how not to be rude.
Incidentally the word I used, MANIPULATION was quite correct.
Meaning,
Shrewd or devious management, especially for one's own advantage.
So please don't try and manipulate me.
You should get a sense of humour before telling people they should get a classical education.
How the hell do you know what education I received, perhaps you would have been better educated by your parents, of how not to be rude.
Incidentally the word I used, MANIPULATION was quite correct.
Meaning,
Shrewd or devious management, especially for one's own advantage.
So please don't try and manipulate me.
Old Git
Being a bit 'tik' tonight are you?
<Incidentally the word I used, MANIPULATION was quite correct.>
Show us where i said it wasn't old chap. I was merely educating you regarding its origin in the latin word for 'hand' and not an association with gender.
In terms of rudeness I think you'll find using Caps is considered rather rude on AB.
You're right about one thing; I don't know what kind of education you had. I can only assess its quality (and your ability to absorb it) by the quality of your written English on this site.
But if English isn't your first language I commend you on your efforts.
I am certainly not 'trying' to manipulate you.
As they say; there is trying and there is doing.
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Being a bit 'tik' tonight are you?
<Incidentally the word I used, MANIPULATION was quite correct.>
Show us where i said it wasn't old chap. I was merely educating you regarding its origin in the latin word for 'hand' and not an association with gender.
In terms of rudeness I think you'll find using Caps is considered rather rude on AB.
You're right about one thing; I don't know what kind of education you had. I can only assess its quality (and your ability to absorb it) by the quality of your written English on this site.
But if English isn't your first language I commend you on your efforts.
I am certainly not 'trying' to manipulate you.
As they say; there is trying and there is doing.
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