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Anyone else fed up with Hurricane Irene?
It hits the Caribbean nations, it gets 30 seconds on the news. Now, as it heads for the US coast, the rolling news channels are spending hours on it, live press conferences from the NY mayor. Sat from in my confortable armchair, it all looks like hype and over reaction.
By all means cover natural disasters and their aftermath. But not hours of scaremongering for what will hopefully be just a wet and windy evening.
By all means cover natural disasters and their aftermath. But not hours of scaremongering for what will hopefully be just a wet and windy evening.
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You wouldnt be if you were in it Gromit - I have been in three and the last was pretty awful.
However, the Beeb was going somewhat OTT with "50 miles an hour winds are battering the outer islands and lashing rain down" - thats no worse than a good UK storm and not yet the real thing as they were in the outer islands.
And, secondly, it is only (though not nice) a Cat 2 storm and will be a Cat by the time it takes on the Big Apple. However, I would prefer to be sitting here.
However, the Beeb was going somewhat OTT with "50 miles an hour winds are battering the outer islands and lashing rain down" - thats no worse than a good UK storm and not yet the real thing as they were in the outer islands.
And, secondly, it is only (though not nice) a Cat 2 storm and will be a Cat by the time it takes on the Big Apple. However, I would prefer to be sitting here.
Hurricanes are not unusual in the Caribbean or in some of the Southern States of America.
But in my living memory I cannot recall one threatening to hit New York.
Anyway is it any different from the overkill media reports of freak weather situations that happen to occasionally hit the South of England, against those that the North have to contend with on a more regular basis?
But in my living memory I cannot recall one threatening to hit New York.
Anyway is it any different from the overkill media reports of freak weather situations that happen to occasionally hit the South of England, against those that the North have to contend with on a more regular basis?
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Having been through the Eye of 3 Hurricanes/Typhoons in the Atlantic and Pacific and encountered several others whilst I was in the Navy, they are to be feared Gromit.
Irene is now a Category 1 but can increase or decrease in strength at any time.
I almost met my maker on one ship I was on as it almost capsized in the Huge Waves.
Be thankful that you are safe Gromit as the Americans get battered every Year and are rightfully fearful
Irene is now a Category 1 but can increase or decrease in strength at any time.
I almost met my maker on one ship I was on as it almost capsized in the Huge Waves.
Be thankful that you are safe Gromit as the Americans get battered every Year and are rightfully fearful
AOG
New York and Hurricanes since 2000
// June 17, 2001 — The remnants of Tropical Storm Allison produce moderate rainfall up to 3 inches (75 mm), although it fell in just a couple hours causing minor to moderate flash flooding.
August 10, 2002 — Tropical Storm Cristobal generates rip currents which drown three people on the coast of Long Island.
September 28, 2002 — The remnants of Hurricane Isidore produce widespread light rainfall over much of the state and moderate wind gusts. Some small trees are blown down, and minor power outages are reported.
September 21, 2003 — Hurricane Isabel affects the state with high winds and flooding. Damage in New York totals to $90 million (2003 USD, $98 million 2006 USD). In and around New York City, about 1.1 million customers were left without power, though most outages were fixed by the day after the hurricane passed through the region. Offshore of Long Beach, rough waves killed a man while bodysurfing.
August 4, 2004 — Hurricane Alex drops 2.83 inches (70 mm) of rain on Long Island.
August 13, 2004 — Tropical Storm Bonnie produces rainfall peaking at 4 inches causing several rivers to swell to at or slightly above flood stage.
August 14, 2004 — Hurricane Charley brushes Long Island and produces light rainfall.
September 4, 2004 — Hurricane Gaston produces light rainfall on Long Island.
September 9, 2004 — The remnants of Hurricane Frances produces heavy rainfall up to 7 inches (175 mm) which causes extensive flooding in central New York. One death, a drowning, and $6 million (2005 USD, $6.5 million 2007 USD) in damage results from the flooding.
July 9, 2005 — The remnants of Hurricane Cindy produce moderate rainfall in Upstate New York causing light damage due to flooding and gusty winds, which downed some trees.
August 30, 2005 — The remnants of Hurricane Katrina produce heavy rainfall up to 5 inches (125 mm) of rain in the western portion of the state. High winds also affect the state, with 4,500 people in Buffalo left without power after high winds downed trees and power lines.
October 5, 2005 — Tropical Storm Tammy's remnants contribute to a rainstorm which turns into the Northeast U.S. flooding of October 2005. Up to 13 inches (325 mm) of rain cause severe flooding throughout the Hudson Valley, killing 10 and causing millions of dollars in damage.
September 2, 2006 — The remnants of Hurricane Ernesto produce light to moderate rainfall over much of the state and wind gusts of up to 60 miles per hour (97 km/h). Numerous trees and powerlines are reported fallen, and several thousand people are left without power, primarily in the New York City area.
June 5, 2007 — Tropical Storm Barry produces 3.91 inches (99 mm) of rain in New York City. The heavy rainfall leads to flooding in the Finger Lakes region of New York State, washing out roads and driveways. Roads and several driveways were washed out.
September 6, 2008 — Hurricane Hanna strikes Long Island with gusts of winds of 52 mph (84 km/h) at Shinnecock Inlet. Aside from numerous downed trees, damage is minimal.
August 22, 2009 — Offshore Hurricane Bill causes severe beach erosion and coastal damage on the southern shore of Long Island. //
New York and Hurricanes since 2000
// June 17, 2001 — The remnants of Tropical Storm Allison produce moderate rainfall up to 3 inches (75 mm), although it fell in just a couple hours causing minor to moderate flash flooding.
August 10, 2002 — Tropical Storm Cristobal generates rip currents which drown three people on the coast of Long Island.
September 28, 2002 — The remnants of Hurricane Isidore produce widespread light rainfall over much of the state and moderate wind gusts. Some small trees are blown down, and minor power outages are reported.
September 21, 2003 — Hurricane Isabel affects the state with high winds and flooding. Damage in New York totals to $90 million (2003 USD, $98 million 2006 USD). In and around New York City, about 1.1 million customers were left without power, though most outages were fixed by the day after the hurricane passed through the region. Offshore of Long Beach, rough waves killed a man while bodysurfing.
August 4, 2004 — Hurricane Alex drops 2.83 inches (70 mm) of rain on Long Island.
August 13, 2004 — Tropical Storm Bonnie produces rainfall peaking at 4 inches causing several rivers to swell to at or slightly above flood stage.
August 14, 2004 — Hurricane Charley brushes Long Island and produces light rainfall.
September 4, 2004 — Hurricane Gaston produces light rainfall on Long Island.
September 9, 2004 — The remnants of Hurricane Frances produces heavy rainfall up to 7 inches (175 mm) which causes extensive flooding in central New York. One death, a drowning, and $6 million (2005 USD, $6.5 million 2007 USD) in damage results from the flooding.
July 9, 2005 — The remnants of Hurricane Cindy produce moderate rainfall in Upstate New York causing light damage due to flooding and gusty winds, which downed some trees.
August 30, 2005 — The remnants of Hurricane Katrina produce heavy rainfall up to 5 inches (125 mm) of rain in the western portion of the state. High winds also affect the state, with 4,500 people in Buffalo left without power after high winds downed trees and power lines.
October 5, 2005 — Tropical Storm Tammy's remnants contribute to a rainstorm which turns into the Northeast U.S. flooding of October 2005. Up to 13 inches (325 mm) of rain cause severe flooding throughout the Hudson Valley, killing 10 and causing millions of dollars in damage.
September 2, 2006 — The remnants of Hurricane Ernesto produce light to moderate rainfall over much of the state and wind gusts of up to 60 miles per hour (97 km/h). Numerous trees and powerlines are reported fallen, and several thousand people are left without power, primarily in the New York City area.
June 5, 2007 — Tropical Storm Barry produces 3.91 inches (99 mm) of rain in New York City. The heavy rainfall leads to flooding in the Finger Lakes region of New York State, washing out roads and driveways. Roads and several driveways were washed out.
September 6, 2008 — Hurricane Hanna strikes Long Island with gusts of winds of 52 mph (84 km/h) at Shinnecock Inlet. Aside from numerous downed trees, damage is minimal.
August 22, 2009 — Offshore Hurricane Bill causes severe beach erosion and coastal damage on the southern shore of Long Island. //
Gromit
Pretty impressive but didn't you did go to a lot of trouble to prove me wrong? Must admit though I never recalled any of them.
Were any of those severe enough to call for evacuations?
/// In New York alone, 250,000 were told to evacuate. Those living in low-lying areas like Manhattan and Brooklyn must be out by 5pm today (10pm BST) ///.
/// It's the first mandatory evacuation in New York's history.///
Pretty impressive but didn't you did go to a lot of trouble to prove me wrong? Must admit though I never recalled any of them.
Were any of those severe enough to call for evacuations?
/// In New York alone, 250,000 were told to evacuate. Those living in low-lying areas like Manhattan and Brooklyn must be out by 5pm today (10pm BST) ///.
/// It's the first mandatory evacuation in New York's history.///
well Tropical Alison is wrong - it produced over 30 inches of rain up near the GB International Aiport, 25 inches over the main CBD and where I was 19 inches - I was there! And it was coming down at 5 inches an hour at one point.
On the Sat am, they took over the land lines for communication purposes - no flights as I was due out to London for a major meeting........
Some twenty people died - some thought to be "conveninent" as water and tricity do not mix - a horrific one as well as with a woman in the Chase building who ignored the evacuation and came down i40 mins late in the lifts to the car park 4 floors under the building - the doors opened and she drowned.
So Alison was big news.....and was a result of the low coming in, getting stuck up on the Texas Louisiana border and pushed back down with a continental high - it then wedged itself half over land and half over sea - at one point folk on the oil platforms reported the sea being 3 feet lower than normal as the low spun around, picking up water and then unloading it over us.
On the Sat am, they took over the land lines for communication purposes - no flights as I was due out to London for a major meeting........
Some twenty people died - some thought to be "conveninent" as water and tricity do not mix - a horrific one as well as with a woman in the Chase building who ignored the evacuation and came down i40 mins late in the lifts to the car park 4 floors under the building - the doors opened and she drowned.
So Alison was big news.....and was a result of the low coming in, getting stuck up on the Texas Louisiana border and pushed back down with a continental high - it then wedged itself half over land and half over sea - at one point folk on the oil platforms reported the sea being 3 feet lower than normal as the low spun around, picking up water and then unloading it over us.
http://en.wikipedia.o...ropical_Storm_Allison
actually 41 dead - and over $5 billion of damage and if you want more details like what happened to the SW hospital, I can provide more.
Please get your facts in line - a minor storm - what twaddle.
actually 41 dead - and over $5 billion of damage and if you want more details like what happened to the SW hospital, I can provide more.
Please get your facts in line - a minor storm - what twaddle.
I haven't read all the answers here...but I can assure anyone that NY..and the east coast...has had its fair share of hurricanes.
I grew up just outside of NYC,and my parents had some damage several times during my childhood.
As of last night,I know my brother was worrying about flooding and power outages. OK-it may not be Katrina..but the more highly populated an area,the more chance for damage.
I grew up just outside of NYC,and my parents had some damage several times during my childhood.
As of last night,I know my brother was worrying about flooding and power outages. OK-it may not be Katrina..but the more highly populated an area,the more chance for damage.
true pasta - and a lot of these stories that Gromit refers to as minor are rainfall, winds and damage that came on the back of their major namesake storm so they are naturally going to feature in the US news.......just as what happened with Alison.
It also happens to be the height of the holiday season, Labour Day being the traditional "closing day" to the Hamptons season coming next weekend, so the storm will also be destructive to the tourist economy, especially on Long Island, Cape Cod etc.....
The other factor that Gromit should also factor in is that August is traditionally a quiet month newswise and even Libya has gone a bit quiet while they mop up the pro-Qadaffii-ites and try and find him, therefore it is natural that overage will be more intense.
I can only remember one big storm (a hurricane) hitting Long Island in my time.
It also happens to be the height of the holiday season, Labour Day being the traditional "closing day" to the Hamptons season coming next weekend, so the storm will also be destructive to the tourist economy, especially on Long Island, Cape Cod etc.....
The other factor that Gromit should also factor in is that August is traditionally a quiet month newswise and even Libya has gone a bit quiet while they mop up the pro-Qadaffii-ites and try and find him, therefore it is natural that overage will be more intense.
I can only remember one big storm (a hurricane) hitting Long Island in my time.
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