Pity the exhausted St Paul's protestors, they need a day off

[DTCwordfan]

So reads an article on the Telegraph front page and "that some of them are calling for a holday"

http://www.telegraph....ld-and-wet-vigil.html

This could imply that they are paid. Should the Job Centre be looking at potential fraud being commited.

Who is paying them?

[THECORBYLOON]

Even if they are on JSA they can declare they are away from home. This is normally for a week or two but it can be longer. As long as they say they can be contacted and are willing and able to return immediately if offered a job interview or employment, the JSA stays in comment. They need not be looking for employment as long as they say that before going away. These rules apply to anyone going away from home, so it allows folk to go on holiday and get benefit still.

[emmie]

if many are students, they won't be looking for a job. And they can stay till hell freezes over, their protest won't change a thing. They indirectly support multinationals by buying coffee out the places like starbucks, and having mobile phones, i pods and such like, all made by apple, or other multinational companies, not really sure how they think that living in a tent and sitting it out is going to solve the myriad problems we face. But Christmas is coming, perhaps they will go home to their families then.

[vulcan]

Isn't it time the streets around St Paul's were cleaned ?
http://mg-34.com/imag...ing_of_%20streets.jpg

[emmie]

vulcan, they didn't look like that earlier today.

[naomi24]

Steve, no it isn't clear what you want, even if you do want it for all. Do you want what 'they' have, or do you just not want 'them' to have it? Why do you assume that the people you despise so much have had it handed to them on a plate, and haven't worked damned hard for years to get it?

If all the wealth in this country were shared equally and fairly between all, we would in a very short time still end up with the rich and the poor because some would be enterprising and use the money to their benefit, and the rest would squander it. That's a fact of life - and it's no different even in communist societies. The idea that the grass is greener on the other side is a fallacy, which is why many communist regimes are no more.

[ladybirder]

Agreed naomi. I can see it in my own family. If we were all given the same amount I could tell you which one would have all the latest gadgets in a flash and be skint in next to no time, which one would be gambling with it, the one who would start making things to sell and another who would hoard it and be very cautious but would look for ways to improve their lot in life. And then there's the one who would be moaning they didn't get as much as everybody else. In fact we've talked about it as a family and laughed that we know each other so well that we can predict what the other will do. Some will prosper and some wont.

[Brenden]

How I agree with you naomi and ladybirder, they call it "social justice" , share out the wealth in the world and we would all have pennies in our pockets, but they cannot see this I know who I think the greedy ones are.

[DTCwordfan]

We need a return to some of the "Liberal Methodist/Presbyterian" values of doing business in the early 20thC - without the religion, where the accumulation of wealth leads to both companies and individuals looking at being philanthropic through financing projects and contributions of time to the community, not just at owner/board level but permitted through the organisation..... A sense of being and ethics along side the accumulation of wealth.

There are of course some generous philanthropists out there, mainly American, where are the Brit ones, Branson a little.....but we have no one on the scale of Carnegie - how many libraries did he fund in the US, Scotland and the UK at large, as well as Canada - and his funding of scholarships and "purposeful" grantsis still going a century later...

Apart from the acts of Banks, one really has to look at secretive folk like Soros or the Barclay Bros - or question how families like the Sainsburys, the Cohens, (Tesco), Cadburys etc could do more. And, also in addition to the City, I think shareholders of major Corps like Shell, BP, Unilever should be questioning their boards to upping their contributions to society - which are paltry as a % of turnover or net income before tax.

[DTCwordfan]

(I for one would steer my business, small that it be, to such companies who offered this along side sensitive customer service and quality).

[boxtops]

If they are students, why aren't they in university or college?

[Brenden]

George Soros - now you are talking DT, and I would not mind betting his money is behind the demonstrations going on across the world at this moment, these demonstrators are just very little pawns in a big big game.

[DTCwordfan]

They probably "attend" lectures through webcams.....

[Brenden]

DT, it is a hugh organisation that Mr Soros controls with tentacles reaching every part of the world.

[DTCwordfan]

Oh there are so many other than Soros, Warren Buffet (just waking up to being philanthropic), Mohammed al Fayed, Elton John, Madonna, McCartney, Mick Jagger, Wayne Rooney and a host of sportsmen just being a small example of this vast wealth iceberg - at least the PoWales has his Prince's Trust and other vehicles, but there so many out there worth over £150 million who could be doing there part - and no, I am not advocating a wealth tax as that could serve just to send more wealth off shore. It should be a "sense of duty and thanks" back to the communities that put them there.

I didn't catch the name of the authoress on Desert Island this morning but she was saying that her multi-millionaire hubbie was on that ITV programme, the Secret Millionaire, and had found it inspirational to sponsor folk and he still mentors his benefactors........that is beiing a true role model in the life of the Rich and Famous.....

Sorry, I risk sitting on a "High Horse" on this.

[DTCwordfan]

I am more than aware of Mr Soros and his tentacles, first hand experience.

[piggynose]

i think you stand alone steve.5.
the blue rinses dont want to know.

[DTCwordfan]

Try David Rockefeller. Several years ago, a quote on a credit ref asked for by someone in the M-East - a Swiss banker replied that D.R. has four accounts with us with >$10 mln on each. Now just imagine the assets behind there liquid accounts that don't generate returns.

[Brenden]

I seem to be sitting on that high horse with you DT.

[DTCwordfan]

I don't think that the red rinses want to know either.....some one needs to take leadership over this and it aint going to come from our erstwhile leaders or that idiot in the White House who thinks about everything but implements very little.