Is this a case of 'poppy fascism'?

[sp1814]

I want to state my position on this from the outset - I think it's absolutely nuts to expect Fifa to okay the wearing of poppies on a football shirt:

http://www.dailymail....having-poppy-kit.html

So what if players can't wear them during a game? They can do what the rest of us do - buy one and pin it to their jacket/jumper/whatever.

Why the hell do they need to wear it on a football strip? And why are charities and war heroes describing it as an insult to those who died? Footballers have never worn poppies on the pitch before, so what's the big deal?

[jno]

why should remembrance days take precedence over other national days?

Please don't call people trolls just because they disagree with you.

[jno]

newbies do get a bit excited sometimes, B00.

[DTCwordfan]

he should apologise - unecessary remark

[B00]

Meh, im sure jno's been called worse DT. Water off a ducks back and all that. Yup jno, rather giddy and over excitable eh?

[jackthehat]

bump

[jno]

now that was a *real* troll. Notice how its methods were different from my own.

[Philtaz]

// why should remembrance days take precedence over other national days? //

Probably because on Remembrance Sunday we remember and respect ALL the dead of conflicts worldwide, it's not seen as a jingoistic display of nationality.

Not really a surprise though. More Brits kow-towing to their masters in Europe. Who'd have thought it, eh?

[ichkeria]

If the FA want to make a meaningful and material contribution to Remembrance Day, what about a day's wages from each of the players?

[jno]

you may do, Philtaz, but other people remember them on other days as it suits them. April 24 is genocide day in Armenia. April 25 is Anzac day in Australia. Neither is jingoistic. But both are taken more seriously even than November 11 here. (I've been to ceremonies for both.) Fifa isn't insulting anyone anywhere by ruling that none should mark the day by way of their playing strip.

[ludwig]

I think everyone should buy a poppy, but on a foorball kit? No - it's daft.

[Philtaz]

I think you're missing the point jno. I couldn't comment on the character of the Armenians but if the Australian football team were due to play on or around Anzac Day and wanted to wear a symbol they'd worn as a nation for 90 years I doubt they'd give much creedence to a pedantic edict, their nation would doubtless be outraged, but then they're not afraid to stand up for themselves in the face of political correctness.

[Philtaz]

Obviously the teams playing this weekend in the football league didn't think so Ludwig.

[ludwig]

Yeah, but they're wrong.

I do think it's daft, but it's more annoying that fifa should ban it. I think they should go ahead and do it to annoy Blatter.

[Philtaz]

I was hoping that the FA would 'grow a pair' and do exactly that!

Hope springs eternal.

[bazwillrun]

The only insult is the fact that a corrup and useless rsole like septic blatter is allowed to control an organisation like fifa or any other for that matter

[jake-the-peg]

Charity days are good things

But they must be for the individual

When Ludwig says he thinks everybody should buy a poppy he's demonstrating typical poppy fascism.

Its equivalent to saying "everybody should think like me"


The idea that someone should dictate that a group of people should all wear a badge showing support for any organisation is really quite abhorant if you take the time to think about it

[bazwillrun]

The idea that people should wear a poppy is it will also raise awareness and at the same time advertise, so that maybe people that havent yet bought one may go and get one.

[jake-the-peg]

That's fine Baz

But when a group of people start telling others what causes they should or should not support.


When they try to make it socially unacceptable not to support a particular charity that's when then line is crossed

Raising awareness is great - emotional blackmail is not