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When they crack down on mobile phone use in cars which is illegal, I'll give it some serious thought.
(Ok mobile's with ear phones or whatever they are called is allowed)
When they crack down on mobile phone use in cars which is illegal, I'll give it some serious thought.
(Ok mobile's with ear phones or whatever they are called is allowed)
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Dr Filth,
What you mention is all about "self control"......the people you mention sadly did'nt have much it seems.
I NEVER ever drive after i've even had one drink, but to be honest, alcohol just does'nt do it for me at all....I much rather have a fruit juice, a coke or a lemonade as then, in the unlikely event of an emergency or problem arising, I am in full contol of what i'm able to do and would be able to drive if need be.
We have beers in the fridge for occasions if friends come over for a day/night or drop by and cant remember the last time I had one myself........cranberry juice, orange juice ( fresh ) and pineapple juice are my faves, even if people say " you're not having a drink ".....I say i am and that'll do me.
What you mention is all about "self control"......the people you mention sadly did'nt have much it seems.
I NEVER ever drive after i've even had one drink, but to be honest, alcohol just does'nt do it for me at all....I much rather have a fruit juice, a coke or a lemonade as then, in the unlikely event of an emergency or problem arising, I am in full contol of what i'm able to do and would be able to drive if need be.
We have beers in the fridge for occasions if friends come over for a day/night or drop by and cant remember the last time I had one myself........cranberry juice, orange juice ( fresh ) and pineapple juice are my faves, even if people say " you're not having a drink ".....I say i am and that'll do me.
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triggerhippy >>
I am talking about smoking, not meat, or booze.
Smoking is ridiculous, it kills you, it does you no good, it costs a fortune, it is a complete no brainer, how many smokers here are glad they started? <<
and drinking is clever is it , does it make you feel grown up
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The physical effects of alcohol
From the second you take your first sip, alcohol starts affecting your body and mind. After one or two drinks you may start feeling more sociable, but drink too much and basic human functions, such as walking and talking become much harder. You might also start saying things you don’t mean and behaving out of character. Some of alcohol’s effects disappear overnight – while others can stay with you a lot longer, or indeed become permanent.
If you’ve drunk heavily the night before, you’ll almost certainly wake up with a hangover. Alcohol irritates the stomach, so heavy drinking can cause sickness and nausea and sometimes diarrhoea. Alcohol also has a dehydrating effect, which is one reason why excessive drinking can lead to a thumping headache the morning after.
I am talking about smoking, not meat, or booze.
Smoking is ridiculous, it kills you, it does you no good, it costs a fortune, it is a complete no brainer, how many smokers here are glad they started? <<
and drinking is clever is it , does it make you feel grown up
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The physical effects of alcohol
From the second you take your first sip, alcohol starts affecting your body and mind. After one or two drinks you may start feeling more sociable, but drink too much and basic human functions, such as walking and talking become much harder. You might also start saying things you don’t mean and behaving out of character. Some of alcohol’s effects disappear overnight – while others can stay with you a lot longer, or indeed become permanent.
If you’ve drunk heavily the night before, you’ll almost certainly wake up with a hangover. Alcohol irritates the stomach, so heavy drinking can cause sickness and nausea and sometimes diarrhoea. Alcohol also has a dehydrating effect, which is one reason why excessive drinking can lead to a thumping headache the morning after.
Smoking by drivers should definitely be banned. Apart from that smoking in cars is better off policed by the passengers in the car, but why not give police powers to stop adults they see smoking in cars with children and warn them of the dangers? Would be very difficult to spot though.
As for drink, I believe drinking by drivers is also banned - apart from that, unpleasant though it may be drinking in public per se does not harm others the way smoking does, and yet there are alcohol bans in public places all over the country - none of which seems to stop displays of public drunkenness.
I remember being in Portrush a few years ago during the Northwest 200 motorbike races. The police were going round trying to spot people carrying alcohol, when it was obvious most were blattered anyway. Ridiculous!
As for drink, I believe drinking by drivers is also banned - apart from that, unpleasant though it may be drinking in public per se does not harm others the way smoking does, and yet there are alcohol bans in public places all over the country - none of which seems to stop displays of public drunkenness.
I remember being in Portrush a few years ago during the Northwest 200 motorbike races. The police were going round trying to spot people carrying alcohol, when it was obvious most were blattered anyway. Ridiculous!
Because Triggs, although smoking isn't healthy it's far healthier than allowing some faceless civil servant make all your decisions for you- that is just not right. People should be encouraged to be self determining, make their own decisions, hold their hands up to their own mistakes, otherwise society as a whole goes down the pan.
'I fell off the ladder because they gave me the wrong one, and i'm too moronic to make a decision myself, now I've £150,000 from make a claim even if you're a moron'- That's what allowing people to make your decisions for you leads to- want a whole society full of those?
'I fell off the ladder because they gave me the wrong one, and i'm too moronic to make a decision myself, now I've £150,000 from make a claim even if you're a moron'- That's what allowing people to make your decisions for you leads to- want a whole society full of those?
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Funny you should say that hc....What I've always wondered (I'm a smoker) is how they manage to sit on a 13 hour flight with no apparent withdrawals.
I don't bring my cigarettes out with me for short journeys...and I'm always amazed at the people who step out of the supermarket and instantly light up.
I don't bring my cigarettes out with me for short journeys...and I'm always amazed at the people who step out of the supermarket and instantly light up.
Then you don't agree with it really Triggs- how can you? I've seen people die horribly from cancer, and of course I'd prefer it if that didn't happen, but the ills of smoking is hardly a secret is it, it's not kept quiet- and I'll bet there isn't a smoker in the land who doesn't know soemone else who has died from it, so the point is, if that isn't enough of a deterrent to either smoking in the first place, or continuing to smoke then I have no business in interferring with what another adult wants to do, it's just not ethically right (I'm against all interventions- drink, drugs, smoking , religious) not a little because they never really work but more importantly they are morally reprehensible.
Depending upon which day of the week it is (it seems) alcohol can have *beneficial* effects in the body, providing it is taken 'in moderation', of course.
I am stumped for a single *beneficial* effect that smoking has, if I'm honest. So it seems reasonable that it ought to disappear from the lexicon of 'Peculiar human habits'.
However, to legislate it away, seems overly heavy-handed. I can understand that non-smokers are happier that formerly unpleasant smoky pubs and clubs are now stuffed with oodles of fresh air and this is reflected in the way that they have subsequently flocked to these more pleasant establishments......
But I think that in the privacy of their own car, accompanied by a consenting adult passenger, or on their own, smokers ought to be afforded the respect to make their own grown-up choice as to whether to spark up, or not!
I am stumped for a single *beneficial* effect that smoking has, if I'm honest. So it seems reasonable that it ought to disappear from the lexicon of 'Peculiar human habits'.
However, to legislate it away, seems overly heavy-handed. I can understand that non-smokers are happier that formerly unpleasant smoky pubs and clubs are now stuffed with oodles of fresh air and this is reflected in the way that they have subsequently flocked to these more pleasant establishments......
But I think that in the privacy of their own car, accompanied by a consenting adult passenger, or on their own, smokers ought to be afforded the respect to make their own grown-up choice as to whether to spark up, or not!
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