Sir Cliff.....not cool enough??

[Kayless]

http://news.sky.com/h...news/article/16111523
What a snooty sh0wer this new radio station must be, Sir Cliff is a legend!
comments please!

[Davethedog]

Modller "Cliff tried to copy them with his group" every guitarist that I have ever read about from George Harrison to Eric Clapton cite Hank Marvin as one of the main influences in guitar work.

[jomifl]

By the way has anyone here heard of Johnny Hallyday apart from Missnemesis?

[missnemesis]

"he was a mainstream part of the 60's and he has a legacy, which should be acknowledged."

Agree wholeheartedly DtD I do think however that he has 'had his day'.

[factor-fiction]

I don't understand the fuss. It's up to each radio station isn't it to play whatever genre of music it wants. There are many radio stations to choose from and Absolute Radio 60s probably only has a few thousand listeners anyway. Cliff's PR people are of course delighted by this- they used a similar story (radio 1 'banning' Cliff ) a couple of years ago to gain loads of publicity.

I must admit that after hearing Cliff on Loose Women (wasn't watching, honest- it was on in the background) I couldn't stop singing Always and Forever tesyerday

[NOX]

Nooooo Dave Nooooo- his total lack of ability os only rivalled by Burt Weedon and his 'play in a day'. Yes you can learn to play the guitar in a day- but only like Hank Marvin or Burt Weedon:(

[jno]

it's true, though, Nox; even Clapton praises him, and he knows more than I do.

As I said somewhere earlier, radio stations can play what they like. But a lot of retro stations seem to conspire to ignore Cliff the way they ignore punk. Young people are more likely to come across him in films these days.

Speaking of films, Johnny Hallyday made a good one

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0301414/

[elgreco]

Hi Missnemesis. I didn't compare the styles or musical worth of Cliff Richard with the Who etc. I just said that he is an icon of his time. I don't know any figures but I would think that he would be in the top 10 of records sold by a British artist. As such, I would go to see him to see what the fuss was/is about and if his popularity was justified. Just my opinion.

[jno]

"Cliff's PR people are of course delighted by this"

I'll bet the station's are too, factor.

Nonetheless, for all the number of stations in the country, just how great is the choice? How many play Cliff? How many play the Sex Pistols?

[whatmeworry]

how hes lasted in the biz so long is a total mystery to me, he can sing in tune but thats about as far as it goes, hes not a "good"singer hes very average if that.

you have to look at how he started out and when, right place right time, nowhere near the competition thats around now days (although the vast majority is total garbage.)

hes not a writer hes a peformer of other peoples songs, so if they dont offer him material hes donald ducked !

[jomifl]

What me.. agreed, can't sing expressively, can't dance, can't write songs or music, can't play an instrument very well, What an achievement!

[Davethedog]

Whatmeworry What you say about Cliff is true except the competition, it was huge, everyone had the british Elvis. Just a few Tommy Steele, Marty Wild, Billy Fury, Vince Eager, Terry Dene, Vince Taylor and Adam Faith therere were a lot of others and then there were the americans.

He survived because he was unthreatening and Mum's loved him, he was mainstream in a time of youth upheavel.

The fact that his music was bland and unimaginative shouldn't take away from what he achived. Somebody liked it and bought it.

[notasyoungasiwas]

As far as I'm concerned Cliff Richard has had his day. But then I've never been a fan.

[vulcan]

It's either backfired or a great publicity stunt, Roger Daltrey,has backed CR saying they can't ban him.

[craft1948]

I'm a wrinkly...............he's not cool...........and I reckon I could beat him at tennis.

[notasyoungasiwas]

Do radio stations ever play his songs anyway - I never hear them ?

[jomifl]

'summer holiday' and 'livin' doll' are the only sonsg that I can attribute to his 'ouvre', surely there were more..err 'honky tonk woman'? perhaps not..

[jno]

Congratulations passed you by, jomifl?

[jomifl]

oh no...I tried so hard to forget that..now i've got to start all over again thanks jno ;-)

[LoftyLottie]

Never could stand him. He has got worse as he has got older. Can't understand why anybody would think he is a legend. Voice is passable and that is it. No real talent. And a weird, weird personality. He is cranky and he looks every bit his age in my opinion.

Yuk!!!

[LoftyLottie]

And I am a wrinkly too!!