Employing extra public sector workers does NOT mean more people paying taxes

[dave50]

There was some idiot on TV the other day saying extra public sector workers means more people paying taxes. When will these people get it into their thick heads, it's the same money paid by the state that is paid back to the state as tax, ie the same money going round and round. No wealth has been created!

[emmie]

I agree, but there are some who don't see it that way.

[Kayless]

Yes, a common belief, we pay a £ and get 20p back in taxes! Right oh! What I find most disturbing is that some of them are in senior positions contriolling budgets when they haven't grasped that Public sector = cost, end of!

[Brenden]

Makes the unempoyment total look better - overstaff the public sector.

[Kayless]

That was Noo Labour's approach Brenden. 600,000 non jobs, and of course, noo labour voters, created in 10 years, nice touch Tony!

[emmie]

Brenden, been happening for a long time, good old Labour, wonder what happens when the penny finally drops and the Unions get it?

[flip_flop]

But Kayless, there'll be people along in a minute telling us there's no such things as non-jobs. There are no '5 a day co-ordinators', no 'terry nappy facilitators' and no (my favourite from my council) 'business no-smoking interface executive'. No, really. This post was advertised in 2007 at £42k a year.

Did my council really need somebody on £42k a year to tell local businesses that they would have to follow the law?

[youngmafbog]

They will never get it into their thick heads that is why they are in the public sector. They simply do not understand the concept of growth.

What a pity His Tonyness didnt create real jobs in the North instead of hundreds of thousands of '5 a day co ordinators' and the like

[jake-the-peg]

//No wealth has been created!//

Gosh I wonder where all that money came from when they privatised all those state monopolies.

[emmie]

flip, can see any number of jobs like that advertised in our local paper, and in the council offices, meanwhile building, that is if it's got the go ahead, a nice shiny new 100 million pound council office, all the while shutting down community centres, libraries and indeed stopping some old peoples care. Makes you proud

[Kayless]

Yeah but YMB, I miss the 5AD man, I had 6 bits of Fruit and veg yesterday, scandalous!

[Quizmonster]

http://www.theanswerb.../Question1007467.html
The question on 12.4.11
Worthwhile Jobs?
Does your council need a woodfuel development officer for £35,430? West Sussex does. A healthy walks co-ordinator for £15,444 by Forest of Dean. A family lifestyles officer for £21,519 by Rugby. A lifeskills and positive activities officer for £21,500 by Ryedale. In these difficult financial times for everybody in the community it appears that these councils are living in "cloud cuckoo land". How do they make up the names for these jobs?

My response
R1G (Kayless as was) isn't it just wonderful? I did a very swift google on West Sussex, Forest of Dean, Rugby and Ryedale councils and there isn't a Labour council - indeed, scarcely a Labour councillor in some cases - in ANY of them!
Perhaps you and your ilk will start telling the truth now...namely, that most of these so-called "non-jobs" are in fact a Tory thing having absolutely nowt to do with muesli-chomping beardies!

[Davethedog]

Kayless question if Labour created non jobs, why are Tory councils making people redundant?

[jake-the-peg]

So Titus why doe the US private heath sector consume more of their GDP than ours (which is still expensive) yet deliver a poorer service ( according to WHO )

[tiggerblue10]

This is yet another attack on public sector workers. When are you lot going to get it into your heads that most of these jobs are necessary and some do generate wealth for the country. I work for the UKBA and we make millions every month from overseas nationals paying for visas. And no, the workers do not profit from this as it goes straight to the treasury.

[jake-the-peg]

Couldn't be because they have tons of shareholders that need to make a fat profit could it?

[Davethedog]

Jake the Peg You should wonder where the money went. The amount that has cost this country makes Browns gold cock-up look like a childs piggy bank.

[Kayless]

Dave, they are making redundant the non jobbers.

jake privatisation is just a way of making those functions stand on their own feet without public subsidy.

The public sector should be as small as possible. To be fair ours is bad but when compared to the other EU nations it's tiny(per capita). Look at the state the bubbles are in, that's how bad it could get. What I find disturbing is though that the socialist thinking that against all odds survives would still like to nationalise anything larger than a paper shop!

[jake-the-peg]

If Brown's Gold-cock up was so obvious at the time I am astounded that someone so insightfull as yourself didn't mortgage himself to the hilt buy gold and is now a multi-millionaire

Perhaps you could share your foresight on other commodities now

[Kayless]

I didn't mention gold.