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Sentence for stabbing an annoying child
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http://www.telegraph....r-old-Afghan-boy.html
18 months
Sound about right to anybody?
Incidently how is a person who has had his rifle confiscated allowed to walk out with hand grenades?
18 months
Sound about right to anybody?
Incidently how is a person who has had his rifle confiscated allowed to walk out with hand grenades?
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aog, the Guardian asked the father about it and printed his reply; the Telegraph reprinted it (and very correctly attributed it to the rival paper). The notion that the father called up the Guardian is... well, a trifle implausible.
An extremely lenient sentence (though I suppose you could add "lost his job" to it).
An extremely lenient sentence (though I suppose you could add "lost his job" to it).
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Andy-Hughes
As I have already said "I don't condone the stabbing of this young boy" I was merely criticising JTP's and The Guardian's motives.
/// but is it not possible that the father sought some recompense from a moral perspecitve - looking for an apparently as yet unissued apology from the British army - rather than joing the uniquely British 'compensation culture' approach. ///
in answer to this, please read these Guardian extracts.
/// the boy's father said the attack had left his impoverished family bitter and financially burdened.///
/// The attack has imposed an extra financial burden on the poor family as Ghulam cannot run errands or help his father collect grass for their animals. ///
/// " On the question of compensation, he said: "We asked for $40,000 but they only gave us $800." ///
Sounds very much to me, like joining the uniquely British 'compensation culture' approach
As I have already said "I don't condone the stabbing of this young boy" I was merely criticising JTP's and The Guardian's motives.
/// but is it not possible that the father sought some recompense from a moral perspecitve - looking for an apparently as yet unissued apology from the British army - rather than joing the uniquely British 'compensation culture' approach. ///
in answer to this, please read these Guardian extracts.
/// the boy's father said the attack had left his impoverished family bitter and financially burdened.///
/// The attack has imposed an extra financial burden on the poor family as Ghulam cannot run errands or help his father collect grass for their animals. ///
/// " On the question of compensation, he said: "We asked for $40,000 but they only gave us $800." ///
Sounds very much to me, like joining the uniquely British 'compensation culture' approach
Prosecutors said the boy had pestered Crook for chocolate. "In response Crook took hold of the boy's shoulder and stabbed him in the region of his kidneys with his bayonet. Crook felt the bayonet pierce the boy's skin but did not see if he was bleeding." His father said: "His clothes were covered with blood.
(Guardian report)
(Guardian report)
I think we may be getting off the track here. The OP asks if this is an appropriate sentence. The answer has to be no it damned well isn't.
This guy was in a position of authority, he was with his colleagues on patrol. Leave aside the question of whether he should have been in that condition, the fact remains that he was. He has stabbed a 10-year-old child.
Imagine what would happen to, say, a teacher who stabbed a kid here or a policeman. I'd reckon on nearer to eight years if he'd come into a civilian court in this country. Raises the question of whether the military is a competent authority to judge their own, in my opinion.
This guy was in a position of authority, he was with his colleagues on patrol. Leave aside the question of whether he should have been in that condition, the fact remains that he was. He has stabbed a 10-year-old child.
Imagine what would happen to, say, a teacher who stabbed a kid here or a policeman. I'd reckon on nearer to eight years if he'd come into a civilian court in this country. Raises the question of whether the military is a competent authority to judge their own, in my opinion.
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jno
/// aog, the Afghan stabbing was perpetrated by somebody acting in your name, representing your country; the London killing was not. ///
He certainly was not acting in my name, although he may have been representing my country in his position as a soldier of the Queen, but I cannot be held personally responsible for any action the military or it's members take.
The Afghan stabbing was just that, a stabbing of which no one seems at all positive of how serious it was.
The London killing, was 'MURDER'.
/// aog, the Afghan stabbing was perpetrated by somebody acting in your name, representing your country; the London killing was not. ///
He certainly was not acting in my name, although he may have been representing my country in his position as a soldier of the Queen, but I cannot be held personally responsible for any action the military or it's members take.
The Afghan stabbing was just that, a stabbing of which no one seems at all positive of how serious it was.
The London killing, was 'MURDER'.
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