SO IN THE PAPER TODAY IMMIGRATION DOESNT AFFECT UNEMPLOYMENT

[Teddy_boy]

It seems the immigrants have a better work ethic. Meaning they want to work. And in general they are better educated than the unemployed here.
Bit of a blow to the racists.

http://www.independen...ployment-6287404.html

[mickrog]

we are now in the situation where youngsters arer reaching the age where they can work....but lots of these youngsters have never seen the work culture as their parents have lived on the state since they were born.....they see it as normal and acceptable.....i term them the Giro Clan.....

[Teddy_boy]

Mick that's quite true. And the influx of immigrants has nothing to do with that.Its now part of British culture that there's a welfare society. People say immigrants come because of the benefits , but its our society that's created the problem.Time to change the system and cut the cash.

[scowie]

If you prevent immigrants coming in to take the jobs that the natives wont do then those positions dont get filled and you are damaging the economy.

British farmers employ a lot of immigrants to pick their veggies. Without them it would take longer or be more expensive. Our farmers may not be able to keep prices low enough for the retailers so the retailers may switch to importing those veggies instead, and britain gets poorer.

I'd say it is the natives high expectations/lazy attitude that is the greater problem.

[Teddy_boy]

Scowie spot on.

[emmie]

i wonder who did those jobs on the farms before the immigrants got here,

[Teddy_boy]

The people who are lying in bed getting giros.

[seadogg]

(em10) A high proportion of them were wives of lower paid husbands, often themselves farm workers. Also unemployed people bussed out from the cities. What really put paid to manual jobs was technology of course.

[Teddy_boy]

And laziness seadog. Children sit in front of computers instead of playing outside as do adults, and manual work doesnt appeal.

[emmie]

seadogg, i know, i have family and friends who have worked on farms, seasonal and it was not well paid, but there wasn't a lot else, so they took what they could. Then companies started coming back to the area, so many took off there to earn a bit more, not a lot, but a living. The same men and women who worked on the land, then worked in the factories, but then those businesses went bust, or abroad, where labour was cheaper, you can't win, and so they lost their jobs, livelihoods, and some just upped and moved away.

[emmie]

teddy, why do you sit on the computer, have you nothing better to do with your time?

[seadogg]

So what do we do Teddy? Remove all benefits? Go back to the soup kitchens?

The way to end the cycle of depravation is rather complex and long term I think.

[emmie]

Human rights groups would have a field day if they did, but the government is changing the rules on benefits as they said they would. It could well hit people who are very vulnerable, so soup kitchens may be an option. There was a news report recently on middle income families who have fallen on hard times, and are receiving food parcels, and some are now stuck in no mans land. Can't sell the house, its' a depressed market, nor get another job, as those have been farmed out abroad.

[rov1100]

The next thing is they'll be saying it hasn't affected the housing situation especially as some sleep 10 or more to a room and are therefore much more efficient.

[grffindoor2011]

Immigrants will do anything to feed their family and for any amount of wages. The problem is that we as British are tied to expensive commitments, be it pension contributions, credit cards, loans etc. We cannot afford to spend 18 hours a day working in a sweat shop for £3 an hour and looking over our shoulder for HM Immigration.

As far as legal immigration is concerned, I certainly believe it affects employment at the lower end of the jobs market. An employer is more likely to hire a 30 year old Afghan for the minimum wage clearing crap up off of the floor than have to pay a savvy British worker at a slightly higher rate and who will have some idea about employment law and what to do if they have a work injury. The Afghan just gets on with it.

[owdhamer]

The first post was 16.20 the last post 22.46 and you have still got your head in the sand tb, must be uncomfortable

[Teddy_boy]

The facts are there immigrants want to work,they work harder, in general they are better educated. No sand involved i have yet to read anything to change my mind. I dont sit here all day, but i do seem to have rattled a few people.

[owdhamer]

You are waffling tb.

[Teddy_boy]

Im saying exactly what i said in my initial post. You either didnt read it or are choosing to ignore it. My opinion stays the same im correct about immigration. Calm down dear its only a web site.

[owdhamer]

Like i said .

[Teddy_boy]

And repeating what you said makes no difference, i havent wavered or got in a tizzy like you.