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cops caught on tape
planting evidence, any thoughts of why a policeman would find something put it in his back pocket .............
,,,,,,,,,,,then put it back in the car and pretend to find it
,,,,,,,,,,,then put it back in the car and pretend to find it
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This is a great one of our brave boys in blue...
15:15 Thu 12th Jan 2012
Having watched the clip I saw a Police Officer remove something from his back pocket (not find it then put it in his pocket, it was already there) then walk around the back of the vehicle with it in his hand.
Didn't see him confront a suspect with it nor establish what it was. For all I know he may have been putting it in a nearby bin!
Vague in the extreme.
Didn't see him confront a suspect with it nor establish what it was. For all I know he may have been putting it in a nearby bin!
Vague in the extreme.
sorry should have also posted the report
>> Two cops in Upstate New York are under investigation for allegedly planting narcotics in the car of a couple pulled over in the city of Utica.
The incident, which occurred on February 11, 2011, is being reexamined nearly a year later after the cops involved in the caper have been caught on tape creating “evidence” and placing narcotics in the suspects’ automobile.
The recording of the incident, unbeknownst to the officers, was being made by the camera in their own squad car.
The Utica Phoenix newspaper has come in possession of the recording and has since uploaded an excerpt of the footage to the Web. In the clip, a Utica Police Department officer is seen ushering a suspect in handcuffs away from his vehicle, then approaching the driver-side door, reaching into his back pocket and pulling out a small baggie. The officer then crawls into the car, appears to drop the item in question and shortly thereafter exits the vehicle with the drugs that were allegedly confiscated from the car.
According to the Venice Ervin of a local NAACP chapter, the clip clearly shows Officer Paul Paladino, a white officer, planting evidence in the car of two black suspects.
The video has gone viral since first posted this week, garnering enough hits to temporarily cause the Utica Phoenix’s website to go down. The local Police Department has fired back at the allegations, however, and insists that Officer Paladino came in contact with the evidence earlier in the search and had placed it in his pocket for safekeeping.
“You can put the evidence on your person to maintain custody of it until you have a chance to store it,” Williams and Oneida County District Attorney Scott McNamara explains. “Where else are you going to put it, on the ground? In the course of searching someone, sometimes the only thing you’ve got is your pockets until a short time later you can put it all together.”
To others, that seems too far-fetched to be the truth.
“We do feel there is concern that some wrongdoing has been done because police officers don’t place evidence in their back pocket and then take it out and climb into a suspect’s car, and then exit with the drugs unrolled,” adds the NAACP’s Ervin to Utica’s Observer-Dispatch.“I’m pretty sure it’s part of their training not to do the things they did in the video. That makes it very suspect when you see something like that.”
Others also remain skeptical. “If you take something from a suspect, do you put in back in your own pocket?” asks the Utica Phoenix’s Cassandra Harris-Lockwood. “You’ve got a crime scene, don’t you protect your crime scene? What do you mean, you stick it in your pocket? That doesn’t sound like proper police procedure to me. Stick it in your pocket? I don’t think so.”
The Utica Police Department’s Office of Professional Standards has begun their own investigation in the manner, which will be followed up by a probe by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. One of the suspects obtained the tape and forwarded it to the NAACP and FBI, prompting the recent reinvestigation nearly a year after the initial incident.
Pending the results of the investigation, Utica police Chief Mark Williams says he will handle it in a proper manner.
“I just hope people are open-minded and realize that it’s in my best interest, if I have a dirty road cop, to get rid of him, not defend him,” Williams says. <<
>> Two cops in Upstate New York are under investigation for allegedly planting narcotics in the car of a couple pulled over in the city of Utica.
The incident, which occurred on February 11, 2011, is being reexamined nearly a year later after the cops involved in the caper have been caught on tape creating “evidence” and placing narcotics in the suspects’ automobile.
The recording of the incident, unbeknownst to the officers, was being made by the camera in their own squad car.
The Utica Phoenix newspaper has come in possession of the recording and has since uploaded an excerpt of the footage to the Web. In the clip, a Utica Police Department officer is seen ushering a suspect in handcuffs away from his vehicle, then approaching the driver-side door, reaching into his back pocket and pulling out a small baggie. The officer then crawls into the car, appears to drop the item in question and shortly thereafter exits the vehicle with the drugs that were allegedly confiscated from the car.
According to the Venice Ervin of a local NAACP chapter, the clip clearly shows Officer Paul Paladino, a white officer, planting evidence in the car of two black suspects.
The video has gone viral since first posted this week, garnering enough hits to temporarily cause the Utica Phoenix’s website to go down. The local Police Department has fired back at the allegations, however, and insists that Officer Paladino came in contact with the evidence earlier in the search and had placed it in his pocket for safekeeping.
“You can put the evidence on your person to maintain custody of it until you have a chance to store it,” Williams and Oneida County District Attorney Scott McNamara explains. “Where else are you going to put it, on the ground? In the course of searching someone, sometimes the only thing you’ve got is your pockets until a short time later you can put it all together.”
To others, that seems too far-fetched to be the truth.
“We do feel there is concern that some wrongdoing has been done because police officers don’t place evidence in their back pocket and then take it out and climb into a suspect’s car, and then exit with the drugs unrolled,” adds the NAACP’s Ervin to Utica’s Observer-Dispatch.“I’m pretty sure it’s part of their training not to do the things they did in the video. That makes it very suspect when you see something like that.”
Others also remain skeptical. “If you take something from a suspect, do you put in back in your own pocket?” asks the Utica Phoenix’s Cassandra Harris-Lockwood. “You’ve got a crime scene, don’t you protect your crime scene? What do you mean, you stick it in your pocket? That doesn’t sound like proper police procedure to me. Stick it in your pocket? I don’t think so.”
The Utica Police Department’s Office of Professional Standards has begun their own investigation in the manner, which will be followed up by a probe by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. One of the suspects obtained the tape and forwarded it to the NAACP and FBI, prompting the recent reinvestigation nearly a year after the initial incident.
Pending the results of the investigation, Utica police Chief Mark Williams says he will handle it in a proper manner.
“I just hope people are open-minded and realize that it’s in my best interest, if I have a dirty road cop, to get rid of him, not defend him,” Williams says. <<
Here's the bit which just does not ring true:
1: The 2nd cop (The one shown to allegedly put something into the car), is first seen looking directly at the Police car's camera which is running.
2: Therefore, on that basis, why would he then blatantly take so called "incriminating evidence" from his pocket - in full view of that camera - and "plant it"? (Unless he's an absolute moron?)
1: The 2nd cop (The one shown to allegedly put something into the car), is first seen looking directly at the Police car's camera which is running.
2: Therefore, on that basis, why would he then blatantly take so called "incriminating evidence" from his pocket - in full view of that camera - and "plant it"? (Unless he's an absolute moron?)
On the subject of this thread, the only claim that the two Officers did not know the camera was rolling comes from a highly dubious report in a newspaper, which begs the following questions:
1) Duh, who told the newspaper that they didn't know it was running?
2) Duh, the Officers themselves are trained to leave their vehicle camera running when going to deal with people.
3) Duh, they are also trained to stop their Police vehicle behind the suspect one so that their camera WILL capture any evidence.
4) Duh, does anyone yet know WHAT was in the bag the Officer allegedly placed into the car? OR Where it came from before being produced by the Police Officer?
I'd love to find out the outcome of this. My money's on the Officers being innocent all along. In which case we won't find it being posted on here, will we???
1) Duh, who told the newspaper that they didn't know it was running?
2) Duh, the Officers themselves are trained to leave their vehicle camera running when going to deal with people.
3) Duh, they are also trained to stop their Police vehicle behind the suspect one so that their camera WILL capture any evidence.
4) Duh, does anyone yet know WHAT was in the bag the Officer allegedly placed into the car? OR Where it came from before being produced by the Police Officer?
I'd love to find out the outcome of this. My money's on the Officers being innocent all along. In which case we won't find it being posted on here, will we???
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