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Damilola Taylor's killer released from prison.
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http://www.dailymail....rison-just-years.html
Absolutely disgusting that this savage child killer can be let out, after only serving five years of his eight years sentence for manslaughter.
He was originally released in September 2010 but sent back to jail last March for breaking the conditions of his licence, when he was seen in Southwark, south London, associating with gang members.
I wonder if his cousin Chris Preddie, (who was recently awarded an OBE, for his work with youths), will be putting him back on the 'straight and narrow'?
Absolutely disgusting that this savage child killer can be let out, after only serving five years of his eight years sentence for manslaughter.
He was originally released in September 2010 but sent back to jail last March for breaking the conditions of his licence, when he was seen in Southwark, south London, associating with gang members.
I wonder if his cousin Chris Preddie, (who was recently awarded an OBE, for his work with youths), will be putting him back on the 'straight and narrow'?
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sp1814
While I agree with the first part of your post, I cannot quite agree with the rest.
You said:
/// With regards to Chris Preddie - I don't think it's his duty to put this killer back on the straight and narrow. His OBE (whether you believe it was well deserved or not) was for working with others, prevening them from going down that path, not for acting as a parole officer. ///
It would not be working as a parole officer, what better chance (taking into account his knowledge of dealing with wayward youngsters), but to make an impression on his own very close relative.
/// There is something quite admirable with someone who spends their spare time actually getting down and doing something about gangs and youth crime.///
That is quite correct but as I have already indicated, it is a pity he did not earlier focus his attention on his two cousins.
While I agree with the first part of your post, I cannot quite agree with the rest.
You said:
/// With regards to Chris Preddie - I don't think it's his duty to put this killer back on the straight and narrow. His OBE (whether you believe it was well deserved or not) was for working with others, prevening them from going down that path, not for acting as a parole officer. ///
It would not be working as a parole officer, what better chance (taking into account his knowledge of dealing with wayward youngsters), but to make an impression on his own very close relative.
/// There is something quite admirable with someone who spends their spare time actually getting down and doing something about gangs and youth crime.///
That is quite correct but as I have already indicated, it is a pity he did not earlier focus his attention on his two cousins.
sp1814
/// If you have never felt a permanent and unquestioning connection to another human being (be it parent, brother, sister etc) then you cannot comprehend others as people who are valuable to others. ///
These two had a cousin, he either showed no love or attention for his two cousins, or not being loved was not the answer.
/// If you have never felt a permanent and unquestioning connection to another human being (be it parent, brother, sister etc) then you cannot comprehend others as people who are valuable to others. ///
These two had a cousin, he either showed no love or attention for his two cousins, or not being loved was not the answer.
"..a really serious rehabilitation programme..."
Ha ha ha ha ha!!!! No such thing exists. Millions of pounds of taxpayers money's wasted on pandering to the dregs of society and absolutely zilch in comparison to their victims.
Hardened criminals, like leopards, do not change their spots...they reoffend...time and time again. They do not want to be rehabilitated because they are subhuman scumbags who never were part of decent and civilised society.
As one of my favourite sayings goes: "You can't polish a t*rd".
Ha ha ha ha ha!!!! No such thing exists. Millions of pounds of taxpayers money's wasted on pandering to the dregs of society and absolutely zilch in comparison to their victims.
Hardened criminals, like leopards, do not change their spots...they reoffend...time and time again. They do not want to be rehabilitated because they are subhuman scumbags who never were part of decent and civilised society.
As one of my favourite sayings goes: "You can't polish a t*rd".
chris preddie may have turned his life around, but i don't agree he should have got any kind of reward
http://www.dailymail....killers-gets-OBE.html
http://www.dailymail....killers-gets-OBE.html
em10
Problem is - there are a certain percentage (and no-one knows what that is) is of young gang members whose live can be turned around. If we had magic glasses and were able to spot who they were, it would make life so much simpler.
And yes - you're right...there have always been gangs, but the level of violence has escalated in the past ten years (in fact, it may even be less than ten years) and perhaps there's only one sure way of kerbing it...
A mandatory ten year stretch for anyone caught carrying an offensive weapon.
But then the lefty/liberal in me shouts out - "that's a brilliant way of guaranteeing a whole generation of prison-hardened crims - and you know the re-offending rate for ex-prisoners".
It's going to take someone a lot cleverer than me to come up with a solution.
Problem is - there are a certain percentage (and no-one knows what that is) is of young gang members whose live can be turned around. If we had magic glasses and were able to spot who they were, it would make life so much simpler.
And yes - you're right...there have always been gangs, but the level of violence has escalated in the past ten years (in fact, it may even be less than ten years) and perhaps there's only one sure way of kerbing it...
A mandatory ten year stretch for anyone caught carrying an offensive weapon.
But then the lefty/liberal in me shouts out - "that's a brilliant way of guaranteeing a whole generation of prison-hardened crims - and you know the re-offending rate for ex-prisoners".
It's going to take someone a lot cleverer than me to come up with a solution.
Eyethenknew- not true I'm afraid. I was rehabilitated, not by prison granted but none the less, as are a lot of people. I have been to prison several times the longest single period for 7 years for GBH etc, and could very easily have simply returned to my previous violent life of being looked after by those who sought to use me for their own purposes and indeed those I sought to use in turn. Someone showed me a better way, and now I, in turn, try to do that for other people hence why I mentor young offenders. It's not rocket science, you simply have to show somone something better, a proper way to live, de-normalise violence and crime, take away their need for drugs and alcohol, give them soemthing constructive to do where their efforts are recognised and you have a very different person on your hands in no time. Your way just breeds failure I'm afraid which is why we have such a mammoth problem as we do and why I am so against it.
"That is quite correct but as I have already indicated, it is a pity he did not earlier focus his attention on his two cousins."
That wouldn't have been possible - it was what his cousins did that turned his life around, got him working for Crimestoppers and working with young offenders.
He would have had to have precognative abilities to sort his cousins out before the event.
That wouldn't have been possible - it was what his cousins did that turned his life around, got him working for Crimestoppers and working with young offenders.
He would have had to have precognative abilities to sort his cousins out before the event.
rather a hardened criminal than another innocent life lost, sorry i have no sympathy at all for someone who carries a knife or gun, if caught they should be locked up. No one breaks their arms to join these gangs, and heartedly sick of hearing about how they come from broken homes, one parent families and how their lives are a mess and so forth. What the hell do they think our lives were like, we faced poverty and worse, but i don't recall joining a mindless gang to vent my fury at the lack of a pair of the latest trainers. Even gang fights were rare, and if there was one it was usually a fist fight, now they seem to glory in using the most destructive weapons and the innocents like damiola just get get in the way.
"These two had a cousin, he either showed no love or attention for his two cousins, or not being loved was not the answer."
Let's not assume what kind of relationship they had.
You have people who have frosty, distant relationships with their own parents and those who have extremely loving relationships.
Just because people have relatives, doesn't necessarily mean that they are loved or love.
Also...let's be frank - some people are just plain rotten.
Let's not assume what kind of relationship they had.
You have people who have frosty, distant relationships with their own parents and those who have extremely loving relationships.
Just because people have relatives, doesn't necessarily mean that they are loved or love.
Also...let's be frank - some people are just plain rotten.
i think the reason things seem worse now because we are made more aware.... we have the worlds news at our fingertips all day everyday...internet, phones with web access in our pockets, 24hr news channels etc etc....
in the past many people only read their local newspaper once a week and watched news at 10... and maybe a single national newspaper...
before tv, you maybe had a weekly paper and word of mouth...
we also have access to archives now, we can search for particular types of incidents and get a massive list in seconds... in the past you would have to go the library and view microfische...
in the past many people only read their local newspaper once a week and watched news at 10... and maybe a single national newspaper...
before tv, you maybe had a weekly paper and word of mouth...
we also have access to archives now, we can search for particular types of incidents and get a massive list in seconds... in the past you would have to go the library and view microfische...
em10
But the problem with hardened crims is that they eventually get out, after forming alliances in jail, and learning better methods of drug distributions etc. Prison can make someone turn their lives around (eg NOX) or just amplify what was there in the first place.
I genuinely feel sorry for parents trying to bring up kids on estates where gangs are the norm. For them, the only option is to move far, far, far away - and financially that's generally not an option.
But the problem with hardened crims is that they eventually get out, after forming alliances in jail, and learning better methods of drug distributions etc. Prison can make someone turn their lives around (eg NOX) or just amplify what was there in the first place.
I genuinely feel sorry for parents trying to bring up kids on estates where gangs are the norm. For them, the only option is to move far, far, far away - and financially that's generally not an option.
joko, perhaps someone should do a comparison on gun crime today and say 30 years ago. I am sure it would shock most people, and that includes crimes where a knife is involved. I know that would have been more difficult to get guns, but much of what you hear, read about seems gang related, black on black crime is now a major problem, and i believe that in London there are designated police that deal with that. Half the battle seems to be that no one wants to talk about it for fear of being a grass, and ending up dead because you said something to the police.
Just a note there Sp- prison did NOT reform me, in fact if anything it turned me into a raging psychopath. What reformed me was my first wife walking out on me and leaving me with the kids, and I had two options and two options only- one was to stay put where I was and return to the people I'd been associating with and to my old life, or to go as you put it far far away to the one person I thought, guessed, might help me, and for the sake of my children, not me, I went to London to the woman who would become my second wife- and the bet paid off. She rehabilitated me, not prison, prison made me a whole lot worse.
sp, we lived on housing estates, same as the ones you see around now those pointed out in the news as being sink estates, so your argument doesn't quite hold water. There is a difference now, many of these young gang members have far more opportunity to better themselves, if only they would take it. Life is so very different from when i grew up, violence of this type was not part of our lives, the worse i had ever witnessed was the drunks tipping out the pub and the occasional bad word that led to a stupid scuffle
Nox so what is the answer to crime, don't lock people away, i would say that for the idiot drug addicts, seems a pointless thing to do, there has to be a better way, but those who murder, rape and rob you can't leave them to fester amongst society, or try counselling, and other experiments, whilst leaving the public at the mercy of these wanton criminals.
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