Employee wins racial discrimination case

[hc4361]

Just to prove white people do have the same rights as everyone else.

http://www.dailymail....crimination-case.html

[youngmafbog]

What utter nonsence this is.

If I go to a Chinese (or Indian or Italian or whatever) I like to be served by someone from that country, it gives some abience to the meal.

This is typical of the abuse of the racial discrimination that is misused (by all sides)

[Gromit]

I'm surprised no one noticed he wasn't Chinese until he was waiting tables. The lighting is often bad in those places.

[hc4361]

So youngmafbog, you are happy he was sacked to be replaced by workers specifically brought in from China?

[New Judge]

I quite agree. But strangely, though, we do not seem to think the same when we go to an “English” restaurant. Certainly in recent years just about the last nationality you see in English hotels and restaurants is English. I know the reason for this is more often than not because employers have difficulty getting English people to work in the hospitality industry.

Strangely I saw a white person working in an Indian restaurant last Saturday. I think this was the first time I have ever seen this. It made me think that if English restaurants employed almost exclusively English people thee would almost certainly be an investigation into why the industry is employing a disproportionate number of English people and was not “embracing diversity”. No such questions seem to be raised when it comes to Indian or Chinese establishments.

[Gromit]

But if Indian and Chinese Restaurants had english waiters, who would the diners take the p155 out of?

[jno]

the phrase "English restaurant" tends to suggest "fish and chip shop" to me (and my local is run by Turks, who do it very well). Are there that many English restaurants?

[New Judge]

There are one or two, jno. But I do get your point.

[sp1814]

But aren't Chinese and Indian restaurants generally family-run affairs?

When was the last time you saw an advert in the local press for a waiter at an Indian or Chinese restaurant? Or indeed an advert in the window of such an establishment?

The thing about The Chinese and Asian community is at they are extremely family oriented. Which is a good thing, surely?

[sp1814]

NJ

You wrote:

"It made me think that if English restaurants employed almost exclusively English people thee would almost certainly be an investigation into why the industry is employing a disproportionate number of English people and was not “embracing diversity”.

I think what you mean is 'white', rather than 'English', because the restaurant in question could employ an extremely diverse staff, all of whom may describe themselves as 'English', but none of whom may be white!

[New Judge]

No, I meant English sp.

However, if you want to modify my comments I'm perfectly happy. If English restaurants employed only white people (in the same way that Indian restaurants only employ dark people) there would be questions asked.

And no, most Asian restaurants are not family affairs. The staff always seem to know each other (outside of work) but they are not generally related. Most vacancies are filled by word of mouth (hence you rarely if ever see adverts). But this would not cut any ice if there was a class of restaurant which employed exclusively white (or English) people. They would be expected to have a mix of employees which refelected the population.

[sp1814]

NJ

I've travelled all over England over the past thirty years and have been to literally hundreds of establishments (farm shops, hotels, b&bs, restaurants) outside the big cities where only English people are on the staff, without a hint of complaint.

[anotheoldgit]

Nice to know that once again the Daily Mail was the paper used to report on this isolated story.

/// Just to prove white people do have the same rights as everyone else. ///

Yes but it would be interesting to know how many such cases there are compared with the many that are reported on regarding the rights of other groups.

[sp1814]

AOG

The raw numbers wouldn't support or counter the argument.

If, out of 1,000 racial discrimination cases, 180 were brought by white complainants, you could infer that non-whites face more discrimination, or that whites don't bother to complain about discrimination or that both are true.

[EvianBaby]

Have you noticed how you rarely see and Indian person eating in an Indian restaurant.

[sp1814]

NJ

I've just thought of something - there are precious few English restaurants -even in big cities.

By 'English restaurant', I refer to places like St Johns (quite famous - very traditional English fare), but most restaurants I go to now don't specialize in English food.

[sp1814]

EvianBaby

Possibly because they can cook better versions of Indian food at home...

...except at home, it's just called...food.

[anotheoldgit]

All depends on what one classes as an English Restaurant.

One that serves traditional English food or one that is English owned and mainly staffed by English personnel.

[sp1814]

Fish & chip shops!

Fish & chip shops are what I would call a tradition English type of resturant/take away - but their numbers have fallen over the past 30 years with the rise in popularity of kebab shops and Indian/Chinese take aways.

Again - I would be very suprised to see anyone but white, cockneys working/owning pie and mash shops - but again, the number of such establishments have fallen as tastes have changed.

[abstibus]

I knew a Chinese student who worked part-time in a Chinese takeaway in Belfast, and he told me that working there helped him to improve his English.
When I asked why this was, he said that all the others were local.

[Zeuhl]

Our area is predominantly 'white' with two Bangladeshi and a Thai restaurant in the village - all very good.

At peak times they do employ some young blond, blue eyed waiters and I must say it seems incongruous.