To the Tower with them.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail....e-Morrissey-date.html

Well what can be said about these traitors?

They and those who support them are in the minority, judging by the Multi Ethnic crowds who came onto the streets of Leicester in their thousands to cheer and wave their flags in support of the Queen, the Duke of Edinburgh and the Duchess of Cambridge.

So I say to self-haters such as:

Morrissey,and The Smiths.

Roger Waters of Pink Floyd

Jeremy Paxman

and all those others, such as:

Sean Penn

Argentina’s President Cristina Kirchner

Portia Simpson Miller, the newly re-elected prime minister of Jamaica

'Rule Britannia'

[Wharton]

Belgrano - Britannia waives the rules.

[Philtaz]

Belgrano?

Moot point. We were in a conflict and an enemy warship was within the exclusion zone. The so called 'heading' of the ship is immaterial. It could have been heading for a re-supply or a multitude of different tasks prior to re-deployment. They (Argentina) invaded British Sovereign territory inhabited by Brirtish subjects.

Would the Argies have resisted sinking the Ark Royal in similar circumstances?

Would they b*llox!

As for the Royal Family, love them or loathe them this country and its economy would suffer greatly financially without them, that's a fact.

[karenmac60]

Yeah, Scotland's economy would really suffer without her Maj....

[Philtaz]

Yeah, they certainly suffered as a result of it (one facet at least) last year, karenmac60.

http://www.heraldscot...oyal-romance.13430319

[Buenchico]

Statistics show that many visitors to the UK visit Royal palaces, and other historic buildings, because of their links to the Royal family.

Statistics show that many visitors to Poland visit Auschwitz before of its history.

Just because something (thankfully) becomes nothing more than 'history' doesn't stop the tourists from visiting. The assumption that getting rid of the 'Royals' would harm the economy simply doesn't hold water.

[Philtaz]

Ask yourself if the UK economy would suffer as a result of the abolition of the Royal Family.

http://www.slate.com/...a_princess_worth.html

http://www.discoveryf...ly-make-annually.html

I'm not a Royalist but I can spot a major boost to/part of the UK economy when I see it. UK Tourist Boards would be horrified if we had no monarchy.

[Philtaz]

Half a billion sterling holds a lot of water it would seem.

Does Aushwitz make a similar amount for the Polish economy, year on year?

[Wharton]

Philtaz - no argument, I agree with what you say, except that the captain of the Conqueror lost his log book, how do you lose a log book in a submarine?

[Philtaz]

Auschwitz even......

[karenmac60]

Scotland has thousands of dowdy old women and castles to offer - and a damn site more besides- and we don't need to shell out a fortune on the Royal family for it.

[lady-janine]

on reflection i would rather have our royal family than sarky or george wyer or putin. imo no contest for all their faults

[Philtaz]

You're shelling out 62 pence per year, karenmac60.

Tourists to your country are spending vastly more as a result of having a monarchy, that's an indisputable fact.

I doubt Mr Salmond would attract as much!

[karenmac60]

I live at the centre of a major tourist area - in 40 years I have never met one who is here because of royalty. And I'm not concerned about my 62p - but the whole country's 62 pences could do a hell of a lot more than keep some old biddy in luxury.

[Philtaz]

Wharton,

Probably lost in the 'fog of war', along with the memoirs/diaries surrounding missing nuns of one Captain Alfredo Astiz.

UK Forces nullified a potential threat. Strange that the Captain of the Belgrano and the Argentine government acknowledged that the ship was a legitimate target.

If we want to talk about potential threats we could debate why the Argentine Air Force Pucara's were equipped with napalm. Thankfully they never got to use it.

[Philtaz]

Really? Maybe you need to look at the figures for Balmoral and the subsequent revenue it provides as a 'spin-off' to local hotels and B&B's alone.

http://www.balmoralca...omic_impact_study.pdf

As I said, love them or loathe then they make a significant impact to Scottish (and UK) tourism.

[karenmac60]

And we are equipped with Trident - possession does not equate with intent

[Philtaz]

Ah, that's not really the fault of Her Maj. You'd need to speak to the MOD and the guy in London with the Scottish surname about that........

[karenmac60]

Scotland is a lot bigger than Balmoral. Maybe there, St Andrews and Edinburgh make money from the Royals - but lets face it, very few Scots can afford to live in those places. They are overrun by white settlers. The rest of the country gets tourists on it's own merits

[Philtaz]

White settlers? So what colour are the indigenous population? Tartan, or a sort of blue-ish hue?

[Philtaz]

That last question of mine was very much tongue-in-cheek, BTW!