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How did this lowlife get to be a peer?
http://news.sky.com/h...tics/article/16209236
Our system is surely flawed if this can happen!
Our system is surely flawed if this can happen!
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Careful there, d9f1c7. In this country we don't have "trial by media". Okay, the guy said something-or-other. And then somebody else - whose motives we know nothing about - comes out and gives HIS version of what the first guy said. The truth could still be one, or the other, or something in between, so don't jump to conclusions.
He was a career politician who backed Blair. When Blair became PM, he made him a Peer.
There are many who are of the opinion that Bush, Blair and less so Obama, are guilty of illegal wars, of war crimes and huge hypocrisy. That would go down particularly well in Pakistan where these comments were allegedly made.
The US have offered a bounty on Hafiz Muhammad Saeed. He has never been arrested, charged or found guilty of anything. Yet a foreign power, the US has put up $10million for his capture. That is almost certainly against international law.
It may have been daft for the Peer to offer the same for the Presidents, but it has at least highlighted events.
There are many who are of the opinion that Bush, Blair and less so Obama, are guilty of illegal wars, of war crimes and huge hypocrisy. That would go down particularly well in Pakistan where these comments were allegedly made.
The US have offered a bounty on Hafiz Muhammad Saeed. He has never been arrested, charged or found guilty of anything. Yet a foreign power, the US has put up $10million for his capture. That is almost certainly against international law.
It may have been daft for the Peer to offer the same for the Presidents, but it has at least highlighted events.
Simple, it was all in the name of multi cultruism, that has sinece been shown not to work.
Well at least we know the mans opionons and extrapolating from them I trust he will now be watched very closely by the security services.
Gromit, do you expect every terroist to be tried before they are found and arrested?
Well at least we know the mans opionons and extrapolating from them I trust he will now be watched very closely by the security services.
Gromit, do you expect every terroist to be tried before they are found and arrested?
Gromit
/// He was a career politician who backed Blair. ///
/// Lord Ahmed firmly denied offering a bounty but said he had told the meeting that Mr Bush and ex-Labour Prime Minister Tony Blair should be prosecuted for war crimes.///
Obviously he only backed Blair until after he got his Knighthood.
/// he was highly critical of the awarding of a knighthood to Salman Rushdie, claiming the author had "blood on his hands." ///
Seems like some should have been highly critical over his Knighthood also.
/// He was a career politician who backed Blair. ///
/// Lord Ahmed firmly denied offering a bounty but said he had told the meeting that Mr Bush and ex-Labour Prime Minister Tony Blair should be prosecuted for war crimes.///
Obviously he only backed Blair until after he got his Knighthood.
/// he was highly critical of the awarding of a knighthood to Salman Rushdie, claiming the author had "blood on his hands." ///
Seems like some should have been highly critical over his Knighthood also.
// Gromit, do you expect every terroist to be tried before they are found and arrested? //
No. If Hafiz Muhammad Saeed is guilty, then the Pakistanis must find him and then the US must put in an extradition request. To just put a bounty on the head of someone from another country, totally bypassing the law of that land and justice is wrong.
Respected journalist Robert Fisk interviewed him recently.
// It all sounds like an admission that Saeed was indeed a Lashkar leader, until he interrupts my questions. "This is one of the biggest falsehoods – that I was said to be the founder," he says angrily. "This is the result of Indian propaganda. The Lahore High Court thoroughly investigated this accusation and they found it was not true. Before 2001, the Pakistan government used to refer very openly – politically and morally – to all those organisations that were fighting for the independence of Kashmir. They included Lashkar-e-Taiba – they had offices here and in Multan and Islamabad. On 12 January 2002, Lashkar-e-Taiba and other organisations, including Jaish-e-Mohammad (the "Army of Mohammad"), were banned. //
http://www.independen...errorist-1928033.html
No. If Hafiz Muhammad Saeed is guilty, then the Pakistanis must find him and then the US must put in an extradition request. To just put a bounty on the head of someone from another country, totally bypassing the law of that land and justice is wrong.
Respected journalist Robert Fisk interviewed him recently.
// It all sounds like an admission that Saeed was indeed a Lashkar leader, until he interrupts my questions. "This is one of the biggest falsehoods – that I was said to be the founder," he says angrily. "This is the result of Indian propaganda. The Lahore High Court thoroughly investigated this accusation and they found it was not true. Before 2001, the Pakistan government used to refer very openly – politically and morally – to all those organisations that were fighting for the independence of Kashmir. They included Lashkar-e-Taiba – they had offices here and in Multan and Islamabad. On 12 January 2002, Lashkar-e-Taiba and other organisations, including Jaish-e-Mohammad (the "Army of Mohammad"), were banned. //
http://www.independen...errorist-1928033.html
DTCrosswordfan.
I consider your post (below) to be at best a dubious stereotype and possibly worse.
//The Chinese were stepping outside for a pee... You can imagine the Japs underneath "Ayaaah, now rainin Hinese Kamikaze boms" //
I passed comment that you and AOG share the same sense of 'humour'.
Not sure why I needed to explain it.
I consider your post (below) to be at best a dubious stereotype and possibly worse.
//The Chinese were stepping outside for a pee... You can imagine the Japs underneath "Ayaaah, now rainin Hinese Kamikaze boms" //
I passed comment that you and AOG share the same sense of 'humour'.
Not sure why I needed to explain it.
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