Would you?

[TWR]

From what I believe, the private sector that support persons with L.D. have informed their staff that their wage is to be cut by 40%, with no night ( Sleep in rate) & the wage will be sorted to met the night time allowance! would you do it for the less wage? would you work 24hrs as an on-call worker because that's what you are in this job for less money, who is going to miss out on all this? It would be interesting to hear your views.

[factor-fiction]

Sorry I don't understand the post. When you say "the private sector" are you referring to one specific company? Have you got a link to a news article?

[TWR]

Not as yet Factor, someone was talking about it today. I gather its private company's taken over from the NHS to care for persons with L.D.

[askyourgran]

I don't know what LD is, but it seems to me that quite a few private companies are now looking for cheaper labour, which is not good in the health business. More and more cases are coming to light where maltreatment or mismanagement of patients care is down to lack of qualified staff or foreign staff with little English or lack of interest in the job. How many more times are we going to hear that 'Lessons will be learned'?

[factor-fiction]

^LD will be Learning Difficilties

[tenrec]

askyourgran - LD=Learning Disabilities

[askyourgran]

Thanks factor I had dementia in mind.

[buildersmate]

Please provide evidence (in the form of a link) that this is actually being proposed.
I just don't believe it.
It's called 'how to lie using statistics'. Politicians are required to demonstrate competence prior to becoming MPs.

[TWR]

Builders, there has been talk in the news, on the news that the private comp that take over from the NHS due to cost, they say they can due it cheaper & so they can by reducing the wage of their staff, when in the NHS I used to get w/end rate & also £15.00 sleep over rate, that £15.00 was paid as said for doing the sleep over but in fact you COULD (If awaken by Service users) work the full 12hr shift, all this is getting stopped & reviews! In other words the private sector companys are trying to get you to work for less, regards a link, none as yet but the fact remains, they are going to try.

[boxtops]

I think we need to be clear about this (and I know I'm not fully up to speed with it) but as I understand it, some parts of LD are not in the NHS, they are managed through Social Services - and lots of parts of the public sector are being merged/taken over by commercial organisations these days. However, they will be contract managed, I am sure - and they will have to meet Care Quality Commission requirements, just the same as other organisations now falling under the CQC inspection programmes.

I'm not saying that what TWR says is incorrect, by any means, but I'd like to see a link or some article about this.

Public sector cutbacks are still huge at the moment, and whether or not there is private involvement it's still public sector health and social care delivery - there are standards to be met, with much less money.

...and yes, there are people who need jobs so badly that they'd do this for less money.

[TWR]

And what will be the Consequences be Boxy? & I'm not implying that the care will be less, what I'm saying is that there will be ( To put it in another way) depending on how many Service users within the house / home. instead of 10 Cares there will be 7, doesn't that say it all?

[boxtops]

There will be minimum standards.... as there should be at present. There are minimum training requirements for people who work in LD homes, and they need a registered manager. Care workers in all sectors are spread thinly though, I can't disagree with that these days.

[TWR]

I know boxy, I've been there.