Why are English teenage girls 'easy meat'?

[pdq1]

Time and time again commentators from both the English and Muslim communities on the radio today said girls from 13 upwards lack moral sexual standards that a girl brought up in a Muslim household do not.

[jno]

that sounds like an impressively sweeping generalisation. But at least the Scots have been cleared.

[HowardKennitby]

and big Scots

[HowardKennitby]

Drat!!!

[sp1814]

pdq1

Are you asking for an explanation of cultural differences, or arguing that these perceived cultural differences don't really exist?

[Snafu03]

Hmmm, yes, I fail to see why someone brought up with dark ages style religious teaching with the constant threat of physical violence for rule breakers would have a less liberal attitude to sex than someone from a secular upbringing.

[boxtops]

It is a sweeping statement, but several times in the last few days, Muslim elders have been on the TV saying that it's not right that so many Pakistani guys think this is true of white girls, many of who do dress scantily etc and hang around on street corners (not that this is any justification for what happened). Pakistani families guard their daughters very jealously so they are unlikely to behave like that, it brings disgrace on the family.

[Snafu03]

this recent interest in English girls 'easyness' wouldnt happen to be a convenient tie-in with the also recent news story re: its mostly Asians who are grooming underage white girls for sex?

Does Islam teach abstinance or not? Doesnt seem to be 'across the board' with their sexual moral standards.

[FredPuli43]

Hmm. Well, at least we don't murder a boy because he goes out with our daughter. And yes, i do know that that is not Islamic teaching. Neither is raping girls, whether after luring them in and plying them with drink, or at all.
But without providing a justification, it does provide a possible self-justification for the defendants, that they are so abysmally ignorant of the culture which surrounds them that they think that way.

That's quite a distance from the old defence line in ordinary rape cases here, that a victim wearing a short skirt and revealing top was 'asking for it' and that should result in the defendant's acquittal. But it was run, not quite in such crude terms, often enough.

[tamborine]

Retribution can be venged on criminals extended families in India & Pakistan so their own girls are 'off limits'.

Nowt to do with how english girls dress.

[trt]

Where are the parents of these young white girls out at all the hours at night?

[Sqad]

English girls easy......I wonder how people got that impression?

Ask any Spaniard who lives on the Costas, or the Balearics, Cyprus and Turkey..."Which country has the easy women"......only one constant country comes to the fore.......UK.

As already been mentioned, there are few Muslim girls out on the streets at night to be "groomed"but plenty of British women drunk or otherwise.

[Old_Geezer]

Wow, I never found them easy. I must try harder in the future.

[Sharingan]

I am a teenage girl originally from England and I can assure you I am not 'easy meat'. If I go out with anyone it is because I see something of value in him. I do go out at night, usually with my older sisters but neither I nor they are material that these men could exploit because we have all been brought up with a sense of self and come from loving stable families. Vulnerability is not a normal state and is usually caused by a desire to be loved, wanted and to please which often comes from a disrupted childhood or a lack of normal relationships during childhood. While this is not an excuse for these men to behave like this, it would not be so easy for them to exploit girls of my age if they had had a sense of self worth instilled in them which I think is one of the many reasons this has happened. I think the crime is opportunist, there are young girls on the street, dressing to attract because that is what they wish to do attract someone's attention because they lack any at home. There will always be evil people around who will take advantage of that, but it does not mean that all UK teenage girls are 'easy', it just means that these girls started with a disadvanatge and have now been abused and harmed by people with no respect for them because they saw a need in them they could exploit. As such I think their parents are every bit as to blame as their attackers.

[SeaJayPea]

Sharingan, that is the most sensible, reasoned explanation for this appalling situation that I have read anywhere. Good on you.

[jno]

Sharingan's right. The girls weren't easy. On the contrary, they had to be got intoxicated, and beaten.

[FredPuli43]

Shanigan, that is spot on.

[anotheoldgit]

This type of stereotyping over generalisations is yet another ploy to dilute the seriousness of this recent case, and to somehow kow-tow to the Muslim community.

Note the words /// said girls from 13 upwards lack moral sexual standards that a girl brought up in a Muslim household do not. ///

Even if teenage girls happened to be adult prostitutes that still does not give monsters such as these Muslims, licence to treat them in anyway their perversions take them.

[jno]

I don't know where you'd get a child-abuse licence, aog (from social services?) and I have seen absolutely nobody suggesting that the defendants were justified in any way whatever. So what are you talking about?