Why are the police and certain media scared to face facts?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.telegraph....r-fear-of-racism.html

Time and time we see the police fighting crime almost with one hand tied behind their back in case they are deemed to be racist.

Some of the media particularly the BBC seem to skirt around sensitive issues in case they offend certain communities.

It has even been reported that the Border Agency staff have to search a proportion of innocent white travellers entering Britain from the Caribbean, so as not to be seen as racist towards black travellers.

/// One official told inspectors he and his colleagues ‘specifically detained a number of white passengers’ from one flight so they could ‘show that white people were also being questioned’. ///

http://www.dailymail....tml?ito=feeds-newsxml

[anotheoldgit]

FredPuli43
Yes you have a point there Fred, one which I obviously missed, but what I still maintain is the fact that this crime was Racist.

If you had listened to the same radio phone in that I listened to, everyone said they couldn't understand why it was not racist, when if it had been committed by a white gang on young Asians or Blacks it would have certainly been Racist.

As always I am just seeking a level playing field, where others wish to keep the unbalanced status quo.

[rojash]

"when if it had been committed by a white gang on young Asians or Blacks it would have certainly been Racist"

No it wouldn't. You really don't get it do you? As far as you are concerned, anything involving people of different races is racist.

[sp1814]

For example sp1814 will mostly post on Homosexual matters, and Gromit on ..... well we all know Gromit's pet subjects

Whoah!!! Not true.

My most recent twenty are as follows (those with an asterisk next to them are 'gay related'

1. Britain's Got Talent - Jonathan & Charlotte's song
2. Should the 'E' be dropped from OBE, CBE and MBE?
3. Patrick Moore: "The only food Kraut is a dead Kraut
4. Is an 11 year old really old enough to sign this petition? *
5. Christians complain of being marginalised - is it an example of why they should be? *
6. Addison Lee and dead cyclists
7. What can be done to 'detoxify' the flag of St George
8. Will you be part of redressing one of the worst injustices ever?
9. Is the truth finally out? *
10. The Daily Mail - Newspaper of the Year - and it's hate campaign against Muslims
11. What the hell is happening to Salford???
12. What did Liam Stacey actually write
13. Executed for being black?
14. Joke of the Day: how do you get daily mail readers to fall in love with the European Court of Human Rights? *
15. Seriously...I mean SERIOUSLY - what the hell is wrong with some benefit cheats??
16. Stieg Larsson, Jo Nesbo and then...?
17. Is this a case where we really ought to mind our own business?
18. Suarez - a question from a complete football ignoramus
19. Is this an early front-runner for 'Best News Story Of 2012'?
20. Would it have been better for the Radio Times to just...pretend it never happened?

That's four in the past 20 posts, or 20% overall.

Surprisingly, only two anti-Daily Mail rants. I need to raise my game.

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

Good argument,

But by narrowing them down to News questions, might make a difference to the figures.

[FredPuli43]

Yes, it patently was 'racist' aog, but in a very narrow sense. It's rather sad if people have tried to argue that the culture of these particular individuals had absolutely no bearing on what they did or the excuses they may have made. I believe that the judge mentioned that they had picked on girls who were not of the same religion and culture as themselves. There's an irony that they themselves complained of racism against them, and more in that the man who picked up the case after the first girl had been seen by the police and CPS as unreliable, and so conviction was unlikely, and had it pursued again, was the new Chief Prosecutor for the CPS in the North West, Mr Azaz,who is himself of Pakistani descent.

The figures available show that in crimes for this particular type of grooming, in that area, men of Pakistani descent are over- represented, even allowing for the higher percentage of such men there than in the UK population. There's no getting away from that. I don't think anyone on AB questions it. But remember that the supposed cultural belief, that white girls are easy, is being used as self-justification by these sexual offenders and repeated by their friends. That's a very long way from showing that it is universally, or widely, held in their community, any more than 'honour killings' are typical or held as justified by many or all members of the communities from which the perpetrators come.

I suspect that any girl, of whatever original faith, of whatever colour, who was like these victims in background and circumstances, would be just a likely to suffer their fate .

[sp1814]

AOG

I'll ignore the heavy scraping sound of goalposts being shifted and confirm that only 2 of those questions were not posted in the News section. That means that 4 out of my last 18 questions have related to sexuality.

A small rise from 20% to 22%.

I shall take the high road and resist the temptation to turn the question back to you and ask how many of your past 20 questions relate to race/religion because:

a) It's not an issue with me.
b) As long as a well-argued point can be put across, it's all for the good
c) I don't know whether you post to other threads, thereby 'diluting' your figures
d) No-one can come close to Rebel Souls' record of BBC-related posts.

Therefore - lets put this one to bed.