Justice!

[Quizmonster]

I have just returned from holiday, so I may well have missed something, but has no one else noticed that Julian Assange's latest appeal against extradition to Sweden to face sex charges has been dismissed by the Supreme Court?
I am delighted, though I daresay he will trouble judiciaries here and/or elsewhere for months to come, before it all ends. Certainly, in the UK, he has been told by a special magistrate, the Appeal Court and the Supreme Court that he has a case to answer there. The sooner the better.

[jake-the-peg]

Why are you so delighted?

Because of the charge or because of his activities in connection with Wikileaks?

[Quizmonster]

Both.

[jake-the-peg]

Well that doesn't seem much like justice when you extradite someone on one charge because you don't like something different that he did.

But your not a stupid man so I guess you wouldn't say such ngs if you weren't aquainted with the facts of the case.


So why do you think after one of these assaults the victim allowed himm to stay in her flat and threw a party for him?

(here are the details for anybody who's not taken the time to thouroughly look at the case as I know you will have

http://www.guardian.c...julian-assange-sweden

)

[d9f1c7]

The whole things stinks, he's put a few noses out of joint so they are out to get him. After Sweden he'll be sent to the US to rot in one of their jails. The price for uncovering inconvenient truths.

[Quizmonster]

JTP, it is clearly not for ME to express an opinion or decide upon WHY one of his supposed 'victims' did what she did, is it? I wasn't there! Three levels of Britain's judiciary have decided that he has a case to answer in Sweden in that regard and my view has always been the same...that he should go there, voluntarily or under compulsion, to answer it.
In other words, I do NOT want, as you express it, to "extradite someone on one charge because I don't like something different that he did." On the contrary, I want to have him extradited - as he refuses to go willingly - because I don't like something he is claimed to have done. It's that simple. If either of the women involved were MY daughter or sister, I would certainly want to see him face her in court, wouldn't YOU? Indeed, if I were Assange himself, I would be anxious to have officialdom hear MY side of the story in person, rather than yelping from abroad.

On the other matter - and despite D9's interpretation of matters - I sincerely hope the American government has a strong LEGAL case to make to the Swedish authorities for his further extradition to the USA to face the claims made against him there, once their own case is completed.

These are two TOTALLY separate matters, each of which should be heard by the appropriate authorities in appropriate venues in my view.

[sandyRoe]

http://www.theanswerb.../Question1138754.html

I hope his extradition to Sweden isn't a pretext to get him into an American court.

[jake-the-peg]

It's not for you to wonder why they did it but it is for you to express great satisfaction that Assange is being extradited?

Come on pull the other one

What about Christopher Tappin the businessman extraited for selling batteries to Iranians - similar satisfaction there?

Or are you making judgements on a "one of us" basis?



My position on this is that he should be extradited only if the charges are clearly not fabricated, malicious and politically inspired.

We know that the US attempted to bribe a key witness in the Lockerbie trial to change his evidence

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwin_Bollier

and that they did pay $2 million to the Maltese shop owner who gave evidence in the same trial.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Gauci

In that context it's not beyond the bounds of possibility that these women might have been offered similar inducements to bring these charges.

I think that if having seen more evidence than we have the appeal court is happy that this is not the case then he should answer the charges but I have deep misgivings about it.

[Quizmonster]

It did not occur to me that someone would post on this matter in Chatterbank, Sandy! Nevertheless, I am happy to note that I was not the only person who had heard of the Supreme Court ruling.
As I said above, I hope any American application for his extradition is "legal". It's only a few months ago that people here were insisting Assange would be kidnapped and "extraordinarily rendered"!

[Quizmonster]

Then, for pity's sake JTP, let's find out in court whether the women HAVE been offered inducements!! We're not going to find out on AnswerBank, are we?

[pdq1]

When it involves extradition it seems alleged rapists have less say than proven terrorists or murderers. What a crazy world!

[emmie]

if he ends up in America will you be happy then. Because that's what i can see happening.

[Quizmonster]

I WILL be happy if he ends up in America, Em, but only if he is sent there legally as the result of convincing argument presented by American counsel before a Swedish judiciary.
Why? Because, like many Americans, I believe he may have a (quite separate) case to answer THERE, too.

[jabuchanjx]

As for Julian Assange's extradition to Sweden and then extradition to the US, what are the views or feelings of Sweden and the death penalty? I know Canada is against the death penalty, so anytime the US wants to extradite someone back to the US to stand trial; they have to promise they will not seek the death penalty. However, for this person to hack into the frame work or steal and post sensitive information that may hurt my country and therefore may jeopardize my freedoms, that is treason, and therefore the ultimate price should be paid.

[Rohan56]

I think justice is when sex offenders have been convicted not let off free, do you side with all sex offenders usually?
What are your views on Garry Glitter, Fred West and Michael Jackson?

[Quizmonster]

Jab, one can commit treason only against one's own country. Assange is Australian; Bradley Manning, on the other hand, IS American.

[jabuchanjx]

Thank you Quiz, I apologize for not realizing that big tidbit of Julian Assange's not being American and the treason. I wasn’t thinking along those terms. I was just thinking how it is bad for that to happen to any country. To breach any country, to sell or post any classified documents that could jeopardize security of a country, it should be treated as treason whether or not they are native to that country or became part of that country. In other words, no matter what country they call home, if they sell or post secrets of another country, that country should be able to file treason against them.

[beso]

Those women were put into Assange's life by the CIA with the express aim of bringing him down if he displeased the CIA.

[beso]

jabuchanjx, perhaps you should consult a dictionary so that you will understand the meaning of "treason".

Moreover Assange is guilty of nothing more than exposing the truth. As much as it irks the US and fools like you there is no crime so they had to make one up. Hence they activated the sleepers they had put into his life long ago.

[beso]

jabuchanjx is the kind of person that gives US citizens a bad reputation in the rest of the world. (That is the other part of the world your country uses as a resource to further its greed.)

[NOX]

Pitiful opinion and pitiful argument to back it up imho, and clearly someone who just wants Assange punished for having the temerity to call the US into question for it's disgusting international behaviour. If he is extradited to the US from Sweden it will be a huge blot on that country's history, as we know from experience that the US simply cannot be trusted in matters of justice.