I admire the French.

[TWR]

3 Call them women??? you cannot tell can you? arrived in C.D.A. In Paris, came up to Passport Control would not remove their Masks, BYE BYE they were on the next plane out, was the French right in doing this? I don't know if this has been said before.

[ABerrant]

I sincerely doubt this has been said before in the manner you have presented it.

[lcg]

i admire the stand made....but not for being french.

[TWR]

They abide by the rules Lcg.

[sp1814]

Yeah - up there with what the Germans in the 1939s did with he Jews, Gypsies and the gays.

Hoorah for the French.

Hoorah I say.

Why can't we be more like them? And their tarts tartans are simply divine.

[sp1814]

Errr...blame the typos on my iPad with its rubbish operating system!

[Mosaic]

Sp - nonono.
Not allowing an illegal and unidentifiable alien into your borders is wholly different to Nazi treatment of 'undesirables'.

[sp1814]

So...wearing a particulat kind of clothing renders you 'undesirable'?

If I arrived at a French port wearing last season's Gaultier and a pair of outdated Louboutins, would I too be added to that list?

[mike11111]

Yes, if you had a mask on. Get real!

[marval]

Yes they were right. We should do that here.

[RATTER15]

Yes they were a security risk as they could not be identified in the correct manner. I certainly think we should do the same here!

[beckersjay]

Of course they were right. In any case, why could the women not identify themselves to another female if they objected to a male passport control officer?

[jomifl]

Sp, if you turned up wearing a nazi uniform you would probably be turned back too.

[sp1814]

Jomifi - and I would expect to be!

However, to compare a burkha to a Nazi uniform is like comparing a pin striped suit and bowler hat to a KKK robe, surely? We would be inferring something to a mode of dress which is completely at odds with the satorial intent?

[sp1814]

By he way - we need to be careful not to confuse customs and immigration rules to the completely separate rules that France has in place with regards to Islamic female dress.

Like the UK, Muslim women are not waved through immigration without having to undergo a thorough examination (by a female immigration officer).

[Mosaic]

sp - I'm taking it you don't actually have to contend with 'masked people' on a daily basis? It makes life awkward for identifying who you're dealing with. Banks and building societies, schools, shop security cameras - all methods of security are foxed by being allowed to wear a mask.
Compound this with a community that has numerous instances of identity fraud: official documentation is often 'held in common'. I have worked alongside white-collar workers who are running at least two separate names and id's.
Do you believe that my seeing this and saying it happens makes me a racist?

[Mick-Talbot]

sp1814
Yeah - up there with what the Germans in the 1939s did with he Jews, Gypsies and the gays.

Hoorah for the French.

Hoorah I say.
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Jomifi - and I would expect to be!

However, to compare a burkha to a Nazi uniform is like comparing a pin striped suit and bowler hat to a KKK robe, surely?


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Can you see the double standards in the above ?

[bazwillrun]

Here we go again SP twisting and contorting the issue

Of course it was right to kick them out.
These three whatever they weres, would have know what to expect when they got on the plane, and if they still refused to be identified at the border control then they deserved exactly what they got.

If they dont respect the laws and practices of the country that they are going to then they have no right to be going there and secondly no right whatsoever to be let in.

Its a shame we cant emulate the French on these matters

[Gromit]

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No, I do not admire the French. The state should not dictate what people can and cannt wear except where it may be dangerous or offensive to do so.

The women presumably removed their hijab for identification purposes but were then told they could not wear it in the airport afterwards. That is just bullying and not acceptable in a secular free country.

[rowanwitch]

I would like a situation where nobody covers their face in public some of the young people in my area have taken to wearing those tube scarf things under their hoodies so with hood up and scrf thingy drawn up to their eyes no chance of identifying them.., If you have nothing to hide you don't need to

[Brenden]

Gromit France has banned the burka - surely their laws must be adhered to.