The Muslim Brotherhood win the Egyptian election.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-18571580

Well it seems that The Muslim Brotherhood have won the Egyptian election, what will this mean for Egypt and the rest of the Middle East?

/// The announcement prompted scenes of jubilation in Cairo's Tahrir Square, where Mr Mursi's supporters gathered. ///

Methinks it would have been an entirely different scene in the square, had they had lost.

[pdq1]

Muslims get another foot in the door much against many of the population of Egypt and also the Army.

[pilotlight]

Crikey OAG, The old bins aren't too good these days. Mistook 'Egyptian' in your headline for 'English'.
Thought I'd time travelled 40 years.

[Brenden]

Very sad when only a year ago people died on the streets fighting against extreme parties ruling Egypt - and now they have one of the most extreme as a government - do not think the violence is over Bet those celebrating in the square today were not there a year ago fighting for freedom.

[keyplus90]

What is your worry?

[emmie]

keyplus, that now you and others will see a clampdown on so called freedom, and the fact is The Muslim Brotherhood are not ones to settle for
full scale democracy. Jubilant scenes can quickly turn to disquiet and indeed trepidation when they find out what they really voted for.

[jake-the-peg]

Do you have any evidence for that you'd like to share em

Or is it just knee-jerk predudice

I notice you used the word "fact" which many people do seem to use when their expresssng an unsupported opinion

[sandyRoe]

The Arab Spring seemed to promise much but has delivered very little. In Egypt, the army might act as a check on the worst excesses of the Muslim Brotherhood, the rich who profited under the Mubarak regime are still there, and the ordinary people, who longed for freedom, are still at the back of the queue.

[douglas9401]

So is the feeling that the winning party will modify their position or completely abandon things said before the elections?
Such things would never happen in a mature, stable democracy nearer to home.

[jake-the-peg]

//The Arab Spring seemed to promise much but has delivered very little//

The people of Egypt don't seem to think that - they have their first freely elected president.

Lybians probably would disagree with you too

And the Tunisians

Of course anybody who niaively thinks democracy = prosperity is likely to be disappointed

The point is that the secret police have now gone and I think for a lot of people in those coutries that is not delivering little

[Old_Geezer]

Whilst I feel it is likely cause for concern for the Egyptian people, if it is the government they wanted then it is right they get it. I take the view that the world will have to wait and see, and hope any concerns prove unjustified. Ultimately, IMO, the elections were still a step in the right direction. All people need to start a journey in order to gain the experience and wisdom gained from taking it.

[anotheoldgit]

Some facts regarding the Muslim Brotherhood, according to this publication.

https://warsclerotic....e-muslim-brotherhood/

/// It was revealing that the Muslim Brotherhood’s publication in London used to have on the top of its cover page: “Our Mission: World Domination” (Muhimmatuna: Siyadat al-Dunya).///

/// The Muslim Brotherhood has active branches in Britain, France, and in other European countries, as well as in the U.S. for serving Muslim minorities in the West. It is often forgotten that the Muslim Brotherhood has had a global agenda. The founder of the Muslim Brotherhood, Hassan al-Banna, whose writings are studied by the movement’s members, once wrote that the Islamic flag must be raised again in the territories once ruled by Islam: “Thus, Andalusia (Spain), Sicily, the Balkans, the Italian coast, as well as the islands of the Mediterranean are all Muslim Mediterranean colonies, and they must return to the embrace of Islam.” In 2003, the Muslim Brotherhood website still called for recovering “the lands robbed of Islam.” ///

[Brenden]

Lands that were robbed in the 8th century - and who did they belong to before Islamists (Moors) conquered them - these people are beyond belief.

[youngmafbog]

Like it or not, the fact does remain that it was a fair election and the Brotherhood won it.
Lets face it, when a party wins in this country (left or right) there are plenty of disguntled voters.
What we have to hope is that the Army in Egypt simply act as a transitional power and dont try to take over. And of course the real test of democracy will be if the Egyptions have anothre fair election in a few years when the term is complete. Only then will we be able to comment.

[emmie]

no time to answer until now, JTP, perhaps you should do a little bit of reading, watching the news, listening to people who actually know something of the subject, i have done all those things, and so let's see what foolish comment you can come out with next.

[emmie]

what always strikes me is watching the news in all these countries is how few if any women are out there waving banners and rejoicing in their new democracies, or at least what passes for some form of government.
Perhaps if Naomi is around she also might lend some insight into these matters.

[askyourgran]

Time will tell, but it was predicted a few months ago that if the Muslim Brotherhood gained power in Egypt, huge changes will be made turning the country into an Islamic state. At the moment the Egyptian Military have curbed their powers.

[Gromit]

Anyone would think that under Mubark Egypt that was a secular haven and religious and social freedoms were abundant in that country. Egypt was a muslim country and has been for a long time. Voting for the Muslim Brotherhood is the equivalent of voting conservative. Which may well be a bad thing, but not for the reasons the OP and other posters think.

[Brenden]

Gromit, the Muslim brotherhood is a violent islamic fundementalist movement which has been outlawed at one time or another by almost every country in the world, it hates the west (and Israel) with a vengeance, their aim is for Islamic global domination and they will stop at nothing to achieve this aim. Please do not equate the Conservatives with the Muslim Brotherhood even if it was tongue in cheek. p.s. I truly hope you are proved right.

[Gromit]

Brendan

The Muslim Brotherhood are the equivalent of Christian Democrats who have parties in many European countries.

They both have conservatism at their heart and they both believe that their religion offers the basis for social and community cohesion. Their aims ate very similar, only their religions differ.

The Muslim Brotherhood are criticised by Al Qaeda because they want to bring about change through democratic means rather than by terrorism. I hope they succeed.

[Brenden]

We beg to differ gromit only the next few months will tell which way they are taking Egypt and of course their effect on the Arab world.