Ian Brady (Moors murderer) wants to die, should he be allowed to?

[RATTER15]

I didnt realise that he is being tube fed since being on hunger strike 12 years ago.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18739237

Im a little surprised they are permitted to feed him by tube, claiming his insanity, im sure they are acting within the law but I really dont know how!

[ubasses]

If he was sane he could choose to starve himself, but because he has been assessed as insane, he is not deemed capable of making the decision.

[jackthehat]

Because he is in a secure mental hospital, the doctors are not legally allowed to withdraw 'life-saving' services, i.e. feeding him.
If he is in prison, the 'authorities' have no legal powers to force him to take nourishment, hence his determination to be moved to prison where he cab successfully die.

[jackthehat]

Because he is in a secure mental hospital, the doctors are not legally allowed to withdraw 'life-saving' services, i.e. feeding him.
If he is in prison, the 'authorities' have no legal powers to force him to take nourishment, hence his determination to be moved to prison where he can successfully carry out his planned death.

[sandyRoe]

As a patient in Broadmoor Hospital they have a duty to look after him.
If an elderly person with all their wits about them was admitted to some hospitals they might starve because nobody had the time to help feed them.
Funny old world.

[jackthehat]

Sorry, about that.........I'm not quite sure what happened. :o/

[dotty.]

i hope they let him watch all the daytime cookery shows. punishment when you eat normally.

[RATTER15]

I think strings are being pulled to ensure he lives to suffer, unless he is totally insane. It is my guess that he is able to make an informed decision on this subject but they are denying him this right. Just a wild guess.

[dotty.]

his right? lol

[pusskin]

i hope he lives to a ripe old age in total discomfort. (forget the cost)
Must be worth it to know he is suffering.

[dotty.]

bastards like him gave up any rights when he forced his dick in an 11 year olds mouth and let his girlfriend hold the child down

[mrsmaveric]

id drive him to the prison of his choice if i could...but not before he told winnie johnson where her son is buried...tell her where he is so that she can give him a proper,christian funeral and then he can die...that would be my ultimatum to him...no compromise...

[RATTER15]

sandyRoe, it doesnt come down to having the time to look after him, we all have the right to refuse treatment, to go against this basic human right is against the law.

JTH, Maybe you have it there, it still doesnt sound right to me. Im not talking about Brady, just the principle of denying a person that right of choice. Its difficult to judge without knowing all the facts I know.

[ladybirder]

Maybe we could do a deal. We'll let you die if you tell us where Keith Bennett is buried.

[sandyRoe]

When you look at the place where the child is buried I don't think he could find it now. Didn't Hindley try to lead police to the burial place when she was trying for parole?

[RATTER15]

Lets get one thing straight here, my query is in no way defending Ian Brady, I am quite happy for him to die a miserable death in any way shape or form. I was merely asking out of interest about the legalities of these decisions.

[ladybirder]

Oops have I got the poor lads name wrong?

[DaisyNonna]

Too true Sandy. My elderly father was eventually admitted to hospital after a series of falls at his home. He died there having fallen out of bed twice. Safety bars on the bed were not used despite my asking.

[dotty.]

no the lad was Keith

[sandyRoe]

He's in a secure hospital because he's considered to be insane. The staff have plenty of time and a duty to look after him.
I meant that someone could starve because of neglect in an ordinary hospital.

[mike11111]

The irony is that at the time Brady and Hindley committed their heinous offences capital punishment was still in force. They were arrested the day after it was suspended (later abolished). Although since the last executions in August 1964 and the suspension of the death penalty in November 1965 all capital convicts were routinely reprieved, had they been caught a year earlier they would have been sentenced to death and even the Labour Home Secretary would have been hard-pressed to justify a reprieve. Myra Hindley would have taken Ruth Ellis's place in criminal history.