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anotheoldgit | 10:22 Sat 18th Aug 2012 | News
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http://www.telegraph....-in-50m-cutbacks.html

We see cuts such as these inflicted on Forces chiefs, and much further down the line, the abolishment of the 'London Allowance' for all ranks sergeants and above, yet we never seem to hear of cuts to those that impose these cuts, those being the politicians.

Why is this?

http://www.telegraph....Commons-presence.html
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Not sure why a Forces Chief has to travel First Class. It does not make them more effective or get them to their destination any quicker. If the same travel can be done for a quarter of the price, then these public servants should take the cheaper option.

I seem to remember after the MPs expenses fiasco that guidance was given about not claiming first class and cheaper tickets should be bought. I will see what I can find.
Yes MPs were told the same thing about first class travel in 2010.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8521510.stm

So the reason we never seem to hear about politicians suffering the same cuts is because we have very short memories.
Whether in the private sector or public sector, I have always felt that "perks" are a gesture of attainment in one's particular field.......something to strive for and a sort of "thank you."

I for one would be sorry to the institution of perks, diluted in any way.
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That is fine in the private sector where businesses are spending their own money. In the public sector, where tax payers money is being spent, we deserve and expect our money not to be wasted. MPs, Forces Chiefs, Civil servants and Local Authority officials are very well paid. If they cannot bear to sit with the plebs in standard class, they should upgrade at their own expence.
Aye! Up the workers!

(Till I get the foreman's job)
Gromit.....I disagree......so we will have to agree to disagree...;-)
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They were only proposals Gromit, did they in fact materialise?

/// Among the proposals, currently under consideration, is one saying MPs should "be permitted to claim for first-class train travel for longer journeys where issues of space or privacy in which to work make this appropriate". ///

And do they also receive a 'London allowance'?
The London Allowance is topping up of pay to workers in London because of the expense of working there. Their pay is boosted compared to someone doing the same job and not living in London.

Seeing as all MPs work in London, then their pay is not boosted to be higher than those working outside London, because there aren't any. A bit of a daft question.

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MPs can still travel first class, if it is cheaper than the standard fair (which is normally is). And they do check.

// You should consider value for money when purchasing tickets which may need to be changed at short notice. In the interest of saving money for the taxpayer, you should exercise discretion and balance low-cost, often inflexible tickets against the likelihood of cancellations and the subsequent charges they will incur.

The online expenses system will automatically check the cost of a standard open fare when you enter the details of your train journey.

You can claim for first class travel if it is less than the cost of a standard open fare. //

http://parliamentarys...nce/Pages/Travel.aspx
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/// The London Allowance is topping up of pay to workers in London because of the expense of working there. Their pay is boosted compared to someone doing the same job and not living in London. ///

/// Seeing as all MPs work in London, then their pay is not boosted to be higher than those working outside London, because there aren't any. A bit of a daft question. ///

Before you rudely call it a 'daft question' read through your words again and maker sure yours is not a 'daft' answer.

Yes I know why some workers get a 'London Allowance' it is because through no fault of their own they are sent to London to work, and seeing that it is more costly to live in the capital they get the extra cash.

The same can be said for MPs because a large number of these do not live in London but are forced to work there, so I repeat, do they get a London Allowance?

Now we get to the Armed Forces some of these are forced to live in London, so why is it that those under the rank of sergeant receive it, but all those above have had it taken from them in the cut-backs?
Errr, since when has an MP been 'forced' to work in London????

That entire paragraph is laughable.
AOG, are you having a nap?
All MPs work at the Houses of Parliament. It is a large building in London. They are all paid the same (unless they have a ministerial job). MPs are obliged to attend the Commons because they were sent there by their constituents. They work a four day week and many return to their constituent homes at the weekend. They are paid the going rate for working in London, but that is the same for everyone, it is not weighted.

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