Proof these people are not ready for democracy?

[youngmafbog]

http://news.sky.com/s...libya-prophet-protest

Democracy means accepting the unpalatable sometimes and also accepting others have differing beliefs.

This rather shows that unless you believe their fairy tale then you are alien.

but then, I guess we know that.

When will we see the protests here ?

[Kerosene]

Yes indeed, and at the risk of incurring the wrath of certain posters, look how tolerant for example we were a few years ago when our service personnel on a welcoming home march through Luton were subjected to a vile torrent of abuse from a group of Muslims.

Subsequent prosecutions were brought against some of the perpetrators - slapped wrists - but I think I'm right in saying that on the day the only people arrested were non Muslims objecting to the horrendous insults being screamed by the Muslims and the banners they were waving to include accusations of "murder".

Now THAT's the proper way in which democracy operates - isn't it? (cough).

[modeller]

youngmafbog #Democracy means accepting the unpalatable sometimes and also accepting others have differing beliefs.#

Your definition is a valid example but is there anywhere in the world where it is applied. ?
What is Democracy ? Most/all the countries in the world that have the word Democracy in their title are the least democratic as defined by us in the UK
and even here not a day goes past without someone crying out .
" That's not democratic. "if they can't get their own way.
Nowadays if a few people have a vote it is called democracy even if those people all belong to the ruling group.
What happened in Libya has nothing to do with any brand of democracy any more than the recent riots in N/Ireland did.

[jno]

the offending film was made by an Israeli who lives in California; hence the attacks are directed at US targets. No obvious reason for anyone to attack British interests, unless Hague takes it into his head to tell the world the prophet was a fraud.

[Duncer]

Dear Libyans, the prophet does not exist, nor does Mohammed.

That is my belief and I am every bit as entitled to it as your are to believe in people in the sky, martyrs and virgins. If my non-belief offends you so much then ask yourself why your belief isn't strong enough to cope with a few non-believers, rather than over reacting and wanting to burn and kill.

[McMouse]

Haven't seen the film in question, but in my view democracy and intolerance can co-exist.

[bazwillrun]

Why do they need democracy ?
I couldnt give a toss what they do or how they run themselves, its their business.

[sp1814]

youngmafbog

Couldn't the storming of an embassy, which is technically US soil, be considered an act of war? Only asking after watching the fourth series of '24' recently, where Jack Bauer and CTU operatives stormed the Chinese embassy...

[jno]

Kiefer Sutherland is busy promoting The Reluctant Fundamentalist at the moment, so retaliatory action will have to be delayed at least until after the Toronto Film Festival.

[Kerosene]

Why don't we then just storm the Ecuadorian Embassy in London and nick Julian Assange? Because we're far more civilised than Libyans - and certain other "democracies".

[anotheoldgit]

/// When will we see the protests here ? ///

Our media generally remove all offensive material before they start protesting, take the recent Channel 4 documentary that was stopped from being screened.

Perhaps all Western Embassies in these Middle Eastern countries should install weapons on their roof tops similar to those employed in London during the Olympics, that would stop the murderous looting rabble, if one or two happened to get 'mowed down'.

[jno]

the Channel 4 documentary was screened and is due to be repeated.

The offending film in this case was on YouTube.

[Zeuhl]

<<take the recent Channel 4 documentary that was stopped from being screened.>>

it wasn't Old Git. You are spreading misinformation

it was broadcast on C4 a couple of weeks ago and is scheduled for a repeat screening this week. A private screening at C4 HQ for the author and invited guests was cancelled. Hardly suppression of a tv programme as you imply.

Perhaps you should have read your own link properly.

[anotheoldgit]

Private screening, public screening it matters not, enough to say that it is yet another example of Islamic intolerance since the historian Tom Holland was threatened with his life, so therefore the private screening was cancelled.

/// A Channel 4 spokeswoman said: "Having taken security advice, we have reluctantly cancelled a planned screening of the programme Islam: The Untold Story. ///

/// Iranian state media suggested the broadcast was an "insult" to Islam. ///

/// One message sent to Holland read: "You might be a target in the streets. You may recruit some bodyguards, for your own safety." ///

Visions of another Salman Rushdie's The Satanic Verses, issue.

[jno]

Private screening, public screening it matters not

yes it does. It means your own ability to watch the programme - I assume you haven't done so already - is totally unaffected. No fatwa stands in your way. No terrorist is stopping you doing anything, you lucky man!

[andy-hughes]

'These people'?

That sounds dangerously like an all-encompassing statement that more than hints at bigotry - care to comment on your whoice of words?

[anotheoldgit]

andy-hughes

'These people'?

/// That sounds dangerously like an all-encompassing statement that more than hints at bigotry - care to comment on your whoice of words? ///

Crikey Andy you are so touchy, 'These People' 'Those People' are normal descriptions and in no way bigotry.

Perhaps you should do a 'Nick Clegg' on that statement.

[andy-hughes]

AOG - perhaps you shold let yougmafbog respond, I am sure he is old enough to speak for himself.

[emmie]

more lives lost, sad indictment of a peaceful religion.

[sp1814]

anotheoldgit

There's a problem with this message:

"You might be a target in the streets. You may recruit some bodyguards, for your own safety"

If whoever sent it, was tracked down, it would be very difficult to prove it was a threat. It could actually be read as a 'concerned warning'.

If the writer had sent:

"You will be a target in the streets. You may recruit some bodyguards, for your own safety, because if I ever saw you, I'd mow you down"

That is pretty unequivocal.

Still think the send should be tracked down though. Made to explain himself.