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Is a War against Islam a possibility?
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After all wasn't WW1 also started off by an assassination.
Here is what some of the World's press are saying.
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/// There is renewed talk of a "clash of civilizations" and even of a possible World War III. ///
/// And Pakistan's Urdu-language Daily Express says events in Libya show that "hatred against the US still exists among people there" and warns of "more killings" unless the US and Europe fail to stop people from committing "anti-Islamic practices". ///
Here is what some of the World's press are saying.
http://
/// There is renewed talk of a "clash of civilizations" and even of a possible World War III. ///
/// And Pakistan's Urdu-language Daily Express says events in Libya show that "hatred against the US still exists among people there" and warns of "more killings" unless the US and Europe fail to stop people from committing "anti-Islamic practices". ///
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If so, i don't think there is much doubt who would win a stand-up fight.
The issues will be; how we maintain oil supplies in the aftermath; how we deal with the ongoing, endless guerilla warfare that is sure to follow; how it affects our own muslim nationals and those in other western countries; and how it affects Israel
The issues will be; how we maintain oil supplies in the aftermath; how we deal with the ongoing, endless guerilla warfare that is sure to follow; how it affects our own muslim nationals and those in other western countries; and how it affects Israel
The trouble is many followers of Islam still live how the "west" was in the middle ages.
Treating women as "possesions" and lower class citizens, fighting and killing over over religion and so on.
We in the west (mostly) have "grown up" about this, they have not yet.
I am still surprised there has not been more of a Muslim backlash in the UK and USA and other countries after the various bombings (9/11, 7/7, Madrid etc).
But I can see a time when the "west" says enough is enough and then we could well see various wars breaking out in parts of the world (we already have in Afganistan, Iraq etc, what next Egypt, Libya, Syria ?)
Treating women as "possesions" and lower class citizens, fighting and killing over over religion and so on.
We in the west (mostly) have "grown up" about this, they have not yet.
I am still surprised there has not been more of a Muslim backlash in the UK and USA and other countries after the various bombings (9/11, 7/7, Madrid etc).
But I can see a time when the "west" says enough is enough and then we could well see various wars breaking out in parts of the world (we already have in Afganistan, Iraq etc, what next Egypt, Libya, Syria ?)
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Actually, I was actually pondering on a war against particular islamic states.
There can't be <a War against Islam> as it is a religion, a set of beliefs and a mindset. It's almost as nebulous as the notion of a 'war on terror' but not quite.
After all, WW2 wasn't a war against nazism - if it had been we would have also attacked Spain - it was a war specifically against Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy and later, Imperial Japan.
So whilst we might go toe to toe with some islamic countries for specific reasons, what of the others? the uninvolved countries?
Are we contemplating wholesale genocide in uninvolved countries, of anyone who harbours islamic thoughts regardless of whether they have done anything to hurt us or would the plan be to leave them to become breeding grounds for terrorists.
There can't be <a War against Islam> as it is a religion, a set of beliefs and a mindset. It's almost as nebulous as the notion of a 'war on terror' but not quite.
After all, WW2 wasn't a war against nazism - if it had been we would have also attacked Spain - it was a war specifically against Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy and later, Imperial Japan.
So whilst we might go toe to toe with some islamic countries for specific reasons, what of the others? the uninvolved countries?
Are we contemplating wholesale genocide in uninvolved countries, of anyone who harbours islamic thoughts regardless of whether they have done anything to hurt us or would the plan be to leave them to become breeding grounds for terrorists.
It isn't a possibility because there are no political boundaries to a religion . muslims and other religions exist in all countries . Which side would America's muslims fight on ? Which side would Russia's muslims fight on? What about the largest population of muslims in the world who live in peace - India's 300 million muslims ?
The extremism seems to be most prevalent in fundamentalist Arab states . They are only a small fraction of the muslim population . and as for the secular or "liberal" Arab states such as Assad's Syria - well for some reason the west is hell-bent on overthrowing them with armed extremists .
The extremism seems to be most prevalent in fundamentalist Arab states . They are only a small fraction of the muslim population . and as for the secular or "liberal" Arab states such as Assad's Syria - well for some reason the west is hell-bent on overthrowing them with armed extremists .
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To many the spread of Islam throughout the world can equate with the spread of an uncontrolled virus where no vaccine or medicine can alleviate. Oil and water don't mix and the weaker sediment floats to the bottom. Multiculturalism has to be achieved by conceding all practices as shown by the banning of the religious cross in workplaces for fear of offending.
The war has already been won by Islam and has changed our society immensely. There is little the politicians can now do about it!
The war has already been won by Islam and has changed our society immensely. There is little the politicians can now do about it!
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Are you sure that crucifixes were actually banned in workplaces? I thought the ban was on neck chains that had crosses on them on health and safety grounds. If I recall correctly (I mig be wrong - BA gave the option to wear crosses as a lapel badge).
Weird on that - because there has never been any issue with Christians who wear that little fish symbol (don't know the correct term).
If Christianity was truely under attack, surely those fish symbols would be banned too?
Re: a war against Islam...surely unlikely because it would mean very disparate elements in the Muslim world uniting to fight (Shia and Sunni for instance). Also, as others have said, because Islam isn't a nation, who would be on which side?
Are you sure that crucifixes were actually banned in workplaces? I thought the ban was on neck chains that had crosses on them on health and safety grounds. If I recall correctly (I mig be wrong - BA gave the option to wear crosses as a lapel badge).
Weird on that - because there has never been any issue with Christians who wear that little fish symbol (don't know the correct term).
If Christianity was truely under attack, surely those fish symbols would be banned too?
Re: a war against Islam...surely unlikely because it would mean very disparate elements in the Muslim world uniting to fight (Shia and Sunni for instance). Also, as others have said, because Islam isn't a nation, who would be on which side?
Much of the problems we face with Muslims is the result of trying to install democracy as a viable political system in societies devoid of the prerequisite understanding essential to the success of any democratic system. The success of democracy as a political system presupposes a ruling majority which understands the virtue of and need to acknowledge, uphold and defend the essential rights and freedom of the greatest minority of all . . . the individual.
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