savile documentary

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what did you think after seeing it?

[youngmafbog]

Didn't see it. Although evidence seems overwhelming I still think this should be investigated before things like this are produced, especially when someone is not here to defend themselves.

Whatever happened to the idea of innocent until proven guilty?

[sandyRoe]

Who, apart from the producers of a programme like this, would investigate allegations against a dead man? The Police?

[netibiza]

Well, I wasn't sure what to think, but after seeing that, I think he did do all that.

[Old_Geezer]

No, didn't tune in either.
What was your opinion ?

[Snafu03]

all a bit pointless this Saville business isnt it? whats it going to acheive now?

[ummmm]

I'm watching it now.

He's a manipulator with a lust for young girls. What I find the most disturbing is him going to a childrens home for 'troubled' girls. He'd take the girls out and sexually abuse them. Their thinking 'we have to pay for a rare day out'

Just 2 years before his death there's a recording of him defending Gary Glitter!!!

[ummmm]

OG - Watch it. Horrible man...

Snafu03 - No, it's not pointless, not for the victims.

[Mick-Talbot]

It affirmed my opinion that you should never trust the creepy old Snag who is forever grabbing young girls in playful 'fun'


I also think anyone who says
"I love kids but I could not eat a full one" should go directly to jail without passing GO.

http://vincenzobenede...o-not-pass-go-do.html

[netibiza]

This just went on in the old days, I remember that it was just accepted and as I said in a previous thread when I reported it at 18 yrs old at work I got the sack and could do nothing about it, couldn't even tell my parents why I lost the job, it would have been my fault, and I can fully understand why young girls thought they had to pay for a good day out. what a world.

[dave50]

I know these victims felt they couldn't speak out before now but why didn't they say something a few years ago when Jimmy Saville was still alive but old and not the celebrity he once was? Surely any of the tabloids would have loved to get stuck into a story like that.

[sp1814]

I watched it and believed them. There were two women who independently referred to the alcove with the curtain in his dressing room that he'd use to fondle them. That kind of detail did it for me.

Also, I noticed that his grooming technique was similar to that of Jonathan King (wow your victims with rides in your Roll Royce).

I understand why people are saying "why didn't they say something when he was still alive", but none of these women knew for sure that there were any others...so how could any one of them know for sure that she would be believed. Jimmy Saville was up there with the Queen Mum in terms of national affection. Imagine if you'd seen the Queen Mum murder someone in 1964, but had no proof.

Would YOU go on record to denounce her?

(By the way - I'm not in any way calling the Queen Mum a murderer - just using her as an example).

[FoxLee2]

There's a story in the paper today about a woman who with two other young girls was invited to London and were taken to Jimmy Savile's dressing room. Gary Glitter was there having sex with a girl in the alcove:JS had a girl on his lap and was fondling her and the woman who talked about this was almost the victim of a third star (a well known entertainer, still alive). Gary Glitter has been punished, it's too late for JS but do you think this third entertainer should have been named in the story. Maybe putting it out there, will make other women come forward or will this be another 'star' who gets away with it?

[Octavius]

I certainly don't think it is pointless, but I'm really not sure what it will achieve other than debasing his celebrity life to that reserved for the likes of Gary Glitter - to never be spoken of in kind again. But the Louis Theroux programme pretty much settled my opinion of JS being a distasteful egocentric boor.

For the victims, this will not achieve closure. Living with child abuse for how ever many years never goes away - even if the perpetrator is imprisoned, or dead. I know they had their reasons (shame etc) but why those 14 year old victims didn't (or felt they couldn't) speak out when they were 24, 34, 44 or 54 is a tragedy for subsequent victims.

One terrible fact is that so many kept it quiet for so long, and that this led to more and more victims over time. Yes lessons migh be learnt, but its too late.

[shoota]

One of the girls said that she was interfered with when she was 14 and it went on 'til her early twenties.
That'll be 6 or 7 years of returning for more then.........

[Batexia]

I am always suspicious when men of his calibre start taking an interest in those who have a poor home life.

Still he is dead, so what can bringing all this out now achieve?

[2sp_]

My parents knew someone who said she had a sexual relationship with him when she was 16 (possibly younger, she was always a bit cagey about when it started).

Although my gut tells me that there is something to these allegations, I'm uncomfortable with the trial by media that seems to becoming the norm in cases like this.

[emmie]

i watched some of the programme with Louis Theroux interviewing him and that was enough, vile man

[Le Chat]

The thing is when you look at him...he looks stereotypical of a child molester. A real creep. No one has actually expressed surprise regarding this matter either.

[madmaggot]

I feel sick every time I think about his horrible, foul, cigar smelling tongue being forced into some 12/13/14 year olds mouth! Can't get the dreadful sick-making thought out of my head. And yes, I know this isn't the worst of what he did but it's probably the first thing he tried on them. Don't forget girls were much more innocent then; I'm exactly the age of these victims and at that age I hadn't kissed anyone never mind a dirty old letch forcing himself like that.

[pdq1]

I heard that the plaque outside his house was defaced and child molester written. I just hope his gigantic 5' wide gravestone is well protected judging by many of the comments on here and in the press.