Will the right-wing anti-ECHR change their views?

[rojash]

The right-wingers on here who are always moaning about the European Court of Human Rights, may find this news difficult to deal with.

http://www.guardian.c...-bnp-wins-rights-case

[Duncer]

I believe that I would be sacked should I ever decide to join up, and that is wrong. We still live in a democracy. It's back to the "I abhor what you are saying but will defend to the death your right to say it" quote.

[youngmafbog]

why was this in the ECHR in the first place? As Duncer points out what happened to freedom of speach.

Oh, I forgot, most of you lefties on here dont believe in that do you.

And, as an opponent of the BNP justify this "There was consequently a risk that Serco's vehicles could come under attack from opponents of the BNP."

Nice people lefties eh?

From your post.

[rojash]

"why was this in the ECHR in the first place?"

That's precisely the purpose of the ECHR - to protect people from injustice from the state - regardless of the politics.

When certain people on here read of a judgement with which they disagree, they whinge about outside interference.

[jno]

I look forward to youngmafbog answering, instead of dodging, the question

[LazyGun]

It is the right decision, and the original decision to sack him on the superficial grounds of "health and safety " was wrong- most will see that he was sacked purely for his political affiliation and that should not be allowed.

There was no "leftie threat" - this was just Sercos attempt to justify the sacking.

As Rojash and others have said - this is one of the reasons why the ECHR is important and has value.

[sp1814]

I think his home address should be leaked on Twitter so we can all go down and show him 'a bit of drama'.

But seriously - why would a bus driver's political associations be of any business to anyone but him?

Ridiculous.

[jno]

now come on, you lefties, show a bit more bile please

[LazyGun]

I think my bile duct has a blockage - seems to be running a little short of bile... ;)

[McMouse]

It's obvious why he was sacked. Bus and driver should be on the left in this country.

[LazyGun]

^^ LoL :)

[Brancaster]

The bottom line is that the internal working and governance of the United Kingdom is not the business of anyone but the elected government of the United Kingdom. We do not require the "wisdom" and jurisprudence of this bunch of jokers from europe.

[rojash]

Perhaps Brancaster should read the answers to Ab Editor's question.

http://www.theanswerb.../Question1186059.html

[ichkeria]

"The bottom line is that the internal working and governance of the United Kingdom is not the business of anyone but the elected government of the United Kingdom. We do not require the "wisdom" and jurisprudence of this bunch of jokers from europe. "

But there is no law in the UK that I am aware of that says you cannot drive a bus if you are a member of the BNP
There must be some more intelligent and coherent responses surely otherwise it's just going to be a waste of time talking about it

[sp1814]

Very, very good McMouse...

[sp1814]

ichkeria

I wrote:

why would a bus driver's political associations be of any business to anyone but him?

Not trying to 'big myself up', but I thought that was pretty intelligent and coherent!

[emmie]

it isn't is anyone's business, so why should he have needed to go to the ECHR.

[anotheoldgit]

/// "Nevertheless, once he was elected as a local councillor for the BNP and complaints were received from unions and employees, he was summarily dismissed without any apparent consideration being given to the possibility of transferring him to a non-customer-facing role." ///

I always thought that the unions were there so as to protect workers rights, but it seems it is only the 'Left' that they protect.

Anyway why is the Guardian stirring things up, I thought that was the job of the Daily Mail?

[Gromit]

Justice has been done.

Though Serco are apparently going to appeal the decision.

[ichkeria]

"why would a bus driver's political associations be of any business to anyone but him?

Not trying to 'big myself up', but I thought that was pretty intelligent and coherent! "

Sorry sp, I was referring to the replies from the "other side", as per rojash's original challenge.

[ichkeria]

"em10
it isn't is anyone's business, so why should he have needed to go to the ECHR. "

Maybe becaues:
"Redfearn had initially appealed against his sacking on the grounds that he was the victim of race discrimination. An employment tribunal had, however, dismissed his claim in 2005, finding that any discrimination against him had been on health and safety grounds
....
Redfearn had been refused leave to take his case to the House of Lords but pursued it at Strasbourg."

The original grounds for appeal (racial) sound strange to me but then, although I loathe the BNP, so do the reasons offered for his dismissal.