Don’T Lay Brutality To Women In India At Britain’S Door

[naomi24]

Following recent discussions here when it was suggested that Britain’s legacy in India might be responsible for the brutal rape and murder of a young woman, and that the crime wasn’t motivated by culture, here’s an interesting article.


http://www.standard.co.uk/comment/comment/amol-rajan-dont-lay-brutality-to-women-in-india-at-britains-door-8440870.html?origin=internalSearch

[B00]

According to this guy, it's also the womens fault too

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2258422/Fury-Indian-guru-Asaram-Bapu-blames-Delhi-rape-victim-vicious-gang-attack-killed-her.html

[naomi24]

That's not unusual, B00 - that attitude is fundamental to the problem.

[jno]

an intriguing piece of journalism by the Standard that involves taking a headline from the last paragraph of a story - the opposite of normal practice. One might almost think a British newspaper did this to make its own readers feel good about themselves.

"This is a country where marital rape is not recognised as rape"

So was Britain until as recently as 1991, and it had nothing to do with belief in reincarnation. A poor argument.

[naomi24]

A statement of fact nevertheless.

[jno]

when India achieved independence, it was from a country where marital rape was not a crime. So that hardly proves his "argument" that British rule had nothing to do with it.

[naomi24]

jno, apologist rubbish! He's not using that as an argument. He's simply stating a fact - and India is only one among many countries where such a culture exists. Such barbarism should be universally condemned, not excused. There is no excuse!

[jno]

the "fact" he states is: "It is the Indian commitment to reincarnation, not the Raj, that sanctions the suffering of Nirbhaya and her ilk"

That is not a fact. It is an opinion.

[naomi24]

I presume he knows rather more about Indian culture than you do - but that aside, that wasn't what you were talking about.

[jno]

it doesn't matter how much he knows, or I know (and don't be too ready to presume).

It is an opinion and not a fact.

[naomi24]

jno, I think I'm safe in presuming that he knows more than you about Indian culture - and that still wasn't what you were talking about, so do us all a favour and leave it there. It's become a nonsense conversation.

[bazwillrun]

Britains legacy

oh no gasp horror.....dont worry though I'm sure theres a do-gooder that will make an apology on the nations behalf

[ludwig]

// it was suggested that Britain’s legacy in India might be responsible for the brutal rape and murder of a young woman //

Which twit suggested that?

[ludwig]

// when India achieved independence, it was from a country where marital rape was not a crime. //

Many countries have achieved independence from British rule at a time when marital rape was not a crime. The fact that we don't see this attitude to women in all of them suggests to me that's it's nonsensical to make such a connection.

It's obviously to do with the prevailing culture. Britain was only there a couple of hundred years out of a history stretching back millennia.

[naomi24]

Ludwig,

http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question1202237.html

[anotheoldgit]

jno

//// when India achieved independence, it was from a country where marital rape was not a crime. So that hardly proves his "argument" that British rule had nothing to do with it. ///

Let's make it clear then, are you planting India's horrific and disgusting treatment towards women, firmly at Britain's door?

[ludwig]

^ If he is AOG, I think we can safely pass the buck on to the Vikings. All that raping and pillaging clearly affected us and stayed with us after they went back to vikingland.

[ludwig]

Thanks Naomi. Twit duly identified.

[anotheoldgit]

ludwig

Excuse me you very rude person it was not I who made the suggestion, I only posted the offending Guardian link.

Perhaps you would care to issue me with an apology?

[ludwig]

// Perhaps you would care to issue me with an apology //

No, not really. What makes you think I was talking about you anyway?

[pdq1]

Well if Britain's not responsible who can they sue? We are not only the dustbin of the world but the most benevolent when it comes to handing out taxpayers money to foreigners.