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Stephen Lawrence's Brother To Sue Met.
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http:// www.tel egraph. co.uk/n ews/ukn ews/cri me/9789 506/Ste phen-La wrences -brothe r-sues- Met-ove r-race- discrim ination .html
Should be interesting to see how successful he is in his quest to prove that Met officers only pulled him up because he was black.
Would the individuals who have been arrested under Metropolitan Police’s Operation Yewtree, also have a case, by complaining that they have been arrested because they are white?
Incidentally does anyone find it strange that he chose to go to accused right-wing, racist newspaper The Daily Mail with his story?
/// “I am being targeted because of the colour of my skin, I don’t think it’s because I am Stephen’s brother,” he told the Daily
Mail. ///
Should be interesting to see how successful he is in his quest to prove that Met officers only pulled him up because he was black.
Would the individuals who have been arrested under Metropolitan Police’s Operation Yewtree, also have a case, by complaining that they have been arrested because they are white?
Incidentally does anyone find it strange that he chose to go to accused right-wing, racist newspaper The Daily Mail with his story?
/// “I am being targeted because of the colour of my skin, I don’t think it’s because I am Stephen’s brother,” he told the Daily
Mail. ///
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I've always had a big problem with the whole Stephen Lawrence case. The police mess up a fair few murder enquires not because they are racist but because they are, at times. incompetent. I havent known many cocked up murder cases go as far as a public enquiry. However bad it is to lose anyone in that way at least the Lawrence family got alot more closure than most.
13:43 Wed 09th Jan 2013
//Incidentally does anyone find it strange that he chose to go to accused right-wing, racist newspaper The Daily Mail with his story?//
No.
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Well looking at his attire , his overall demeanour - if thats typical of his appearance , then I really cannot see why he is being so frequently stopped .
Considering that no charges / offences for anything is resulting from these stops , then you really have to wonder , if he is being targeted .
If they are totally random stops , then the laws of probability would mean that he would not be a person being stopped so often .
Perhaps the Met is harbouring some resentment of the fact that his mother pursued them so vigourously as a result of the shambles they made of the investigation of the death of brother .
Considering that no charges / offences for anything is resulting from these stops , then you really have to wonder , if he is being targeted .
If they are totally random stops , then the laws of probability would mean that he would not be a person being stopped so often .
Perhaps the Met is harbouring some resentment of the fact that his mother pursued them so vigourously as a result of the shambles they made of the investigation of the death of brother .
mccfluff
/// "After asking why he had been pulled over, he says one of the officers replied that he had been 'naturally suspicious' of him." ///
That is only what he says they said, has he any proof?
/// Apparently that's their response, why they pulled him over. So why are they naturally suspicious of him? what is their reasoning behind that? ///
Perhaps if you were a police officer and it was your job to patrol a particular area, where there was a particular crime problem, and you spotted a car behaving in a suspicious manner (we do not know if it was or not) in the early hours (once again we do not have proof of the time) would you not also be naturally suspicious.
Surely that is a Police officers/detective's job to be 'naturally suspicious'.
/// "After asking why he had been pulled over, he says one of the officers replied that he had been 'naturally suspicious' of him." ///
That is only what he says they said, has he any proof?
/// Apparently that's their response, why they pulled him over. So why are they naturally suspicious of him? what is their reasoning behind that? ///
Perhaps if you were a police officer and it was your job to patrol a particular area, where there was a particular crime problem, and you spotted a car behaving in a suspicious manner (we do not know if it was or not) in the early hours (once again we do not have proof of the time) would you not also be naturally suspicious.
Surely that is a Police officers/detective's job to be 'naturally suspicious'.
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I heard on a radio phone in on this matter, and a black person had also been pulled up by the police on a number of times, but he had a much different attitude, he said the police had a job to do, and he didn't take it personally.
There was also a number of white drivers that had been constantly 'pulled up' but they didn't put it down to the colour of their skin.
Incidentally the radio presenter also made the Operation Yewtree, comparrison, and no one on the show took him to task over it.
There was also a number of white drivers that had been constantly 'pulled up' but they didn't put it down to the colour of their skin.
Incidentally the radio presenter also made the Operation Yewtree, comparrison, and no one on the show took him to task over it.
well he says he was on his way to work and it made him late for a meeting, so i am assuming that its work within normal working hours
he has the officers names and has made a complaint about them so i would imagine the time of day would be confirmed by their own records
If i was going to be "naturally suspicious" wrongly or rightly i would probably look at beat up sheds of cars with young youths in driving badly. Not a middle aged man in a middle class motor which is taxed and insured (and that is checkable by the plate)
he has the officers names and has made a complaint about them so i would imagine the time of day would be confirmed by their own records
If i was going to be "naturally suspicious" wrongly or rightly i would probably look at beat up sheds of cars with young youths in driving badly. Not a middle aged man in a middle class motor which is taxed and insured (and that is checkable by the plate)
friedgreentomato
/// Scraping to bottom of the barrell ///
triggerhippy
/// Perhaps you should just walk away from this cringe worthy credability sapping thread. /// Incidentally it is 'CREDIBILITY'.
Absolutely diamond from my two favourite 'Fence Sitters' who regularly are unable to come up with any constructive argument whatsoever.
/// Scraping to bottom of the barrell ///
triggerhippy
/// Perhaps you should just walk away from this cringe worthy credability sapping thread. /// Incidentally it is 'CREDIBILITY'.
Absolutely diamond from my two favourite 'Fence Sitters' who regularly are unable to come up with any constructive argument whatsoever.
Well its not really a very good analogy you are attempting to draw there AoG, between those arrested through Operation Yewtree and Steven Lawrences brother being unfairly targeted because of the colour of his skin - unless you can show that all of those arrested by Operation Yewtree were white, and were singled out because of their whiteness - which you can't.
It will indeed be interesting to see if he is successful or not.Whenever I hear of such seeming racial bias by the police, I am reminded of the "Constable Savage" sketch :)
It will indeed be interesting to see if he is successful or not.Whenever I hear of such seeming racial bias by the police, I am reminded of the "Constable Savage" sketch :)
Then you shall be triumphantly vindicated, AoG, and can trumpet your victory to the heavens - when he is found to be creating falsehoods, as you claim.
And this piece of fiction is both funny and to the point, which is more than can be said about your attempts to draw an analogy with Operation Yewtree...
And this piece of fiction is both funny and to the point, which is more than can be said about your attempts to draw an analogy with Operation Yewtree...
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I've always had a big problem with the whole Stephen Lawrence case. The police mess up a fair few murder enquires not because they are racist but because they are, at times. incompetent.
I havent known many cocked up murder cases go as far as a public enquiry. However bad it is to lose anyone in that way at least the Lawrence family got alot more closure than most.
I havent known many cocked up murder cases go as far as a public enquiry. However bad it is to lose anyone in that way at least the Lawrence family got alot more closure than most.
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