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Welfre Reforms - Biased Reporting By The Bbc
Watching the BBC 6-o'clock news last night you could have been mistaken for thinking that the government was planning to make huge cuts in all welfare payments and everyone will starve and die of the cold, when in actual fact they simply won't be increased as much as inflation over the next three years ie rising by 1%. It was the most blatent piece of scaremongering I have ever seen on the BBC news.
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I don't think so, jno:
Labour Market Statistics:
December 14 2012 - The unemployment rate stands at 7.8% - down 0.2% over the quarter and 0.5% over the year. 29.60 million people were in work in August to October 2012 according to the labour force survey (LFS). The number of people employed was 40,000 higher this quarter and 499 ,000 higher than last year.
The working age employment rate is 71.2% - up 0.1% on the last quarter and up 0.9% over the year.
ILO-defined unemployment in August to October 2012 was 2.51 million (7.8%) - down by 82,000 on the previous quarter and 129,000 on the same quarter last year.
And crucially (for this debate, anyway):
The claimant count for key out-of-work benefits was 1,575,000 in November - down by 3,000 on the previous month and down 20,900 on the year.
So whatever it is that is driving the benefit bill up, it does not appear to be an increasing number of jobless.
Labour Market Statistics:
December 14 2012 - The unemployment rate stands at 7.8% - down 0.2% over the quarter and 0.5% over the year. 29.60 million people were in work in August to October 2012 according to the labour force survey (LFS). The number of people employed was 40,000 higher this quarter and 499 ,000 higher than last year.
The working age employment rate is 71.2% - up 0.1% on the last quarter and up 0.9% over the year.
ILO-defined unemployment in August to October 2012 was 2.51 million (7.8%) - down by 82,000 on the previous quarter and 129,000 on the same quarter last year.
And crucially (for this debate, anyway):
The claimant count for key out-of-work benefits was 1,575,000 in November - down by 3,000 on the previous month and down 20,900 on the year.
So whatever it is that is driving the benefit bill up, it does not appear to be an increasing number of jobless.
A lot of young familys need financial help more than some wealthy pensioners,I am not wealthy, but I didn't need my £200 to keep me warm, it just went into my bank and got used over christmas. I am in agreement with only poorer pensioners recieving this benefit. A lot of people moan about others on 'benefits' while quite happily taking the winter fuel payment and spending it on luxuries.
An alternative to spending cuts?
Collect all the tax owed by corporations start with the £8bn owed by Vodaphone to start with. The amout of tax defrauded far outweights any wefare costs.
Levy the banks after all they benefited, and are still benefiting, from the governmts largess.
Stop privatising public services in 2011 GS$, as an example, made £450m profit, most of this from public services, that profit is money that could have been retained by the public purse.
Invest in jobs, logic tells you the more people employed the less claim benefit and more pay tax.
Cut what MP's can claim in expenses.
New judge leaving the EU would be a financial disaster, the Torys own think tank in 2009 said we would lose a conservative 3m jobs (look it up)
Collect all the tax owed by corporations start with the £8bn owed by Vodaphone to start with. The amout of tax defrauded far outweights any wefare costs.
Levy the banks after all they benefited, and are still benefiting, from the governmts largess.
Stop privatising public services in 2011 GS$, as an example, made £450m profit, most of this from public services, that profit is money that could have been retained by the public purse.
Invest in jobs, logic tells you the more people employed the less claim benefit and more pay tax.
Cut what MP's can claim in expenses.
New judge leaving the EU would be a financial disaster, the Torys own think tank in 2009 said we would lose a conservative 3m jobs (look it up)
Also as New Judge says the total "Jobseeker's Allowance - the main unemployment benefit - represents just 3% of total spending. If 41% of welfare spending really did go on JSA it would be worth £1,000 a week - not the £71 that most people actually get"
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Collect all the tax owed by corporations; Do you mean tax defrauded or tax avoided ? I think you will find most bandied about is actually avoided and so whilst maybe immoral is not actually collectable.
Levy the banks after all they benefited, and are still benefiting, from the governmts largess; Banking is International. Unless this was done worldwide you would put the UK banks at a disadvantage. Given that the banking sector generated bucket loads for the GDP this would not be wise. The Germans would like it though as they could take over our business.
Stop privatising public services in 2011 GS$, as an example, made £450m profit, most of this from public services, that profit is money that could have been retained by the public purse.; The problem is that public sector tends to be bad at contracts and bad at being lean. I am sure the public sector would soon gobble up that 450m which is not a huge amount of money. G4S may be a good example for your point but not all are feckless and useless like them.
Invest in jobs, logic tells you the more people employed the less claim benefit and more pay tax; I agree with this, however most people who shout this one then advocate taxing the 'rich' at 50% or more and these would be the people who would generate the jobs. Government can assist but cannot create jobs. (unlike New labour who bought votes by bloating the public sector so leaving us in this mess we are in)
Cut what MP's can claim in expenses.; Couldn't agree more
New judge leaving the EU would be a financial disaster, the Torys own think tank in 2009 said we would lose a conservative 3m jobs (look it up)
No, it would not. The last costing of the EU membership in 2007 put actual cost art around 655Bn when taking into account loony laws and red tape. BTW quoting the Tories as if they are anti EU is a bit odd. It is not just tories who are sceptical.
Levy the banks after all they benefited, and are still benefiting, from the governmts largess; Banking is International. Unless this was done worldwide you would put the UK banks at a disadvantage. Given that the banking sector generated bucket loads for the GDP this would not be wise. The Germans would like it though as they could take over our business.
Stop privatising public services in 2011 GS$, as an example, made £450m profit, most of this from public services, that profit is money that could have been retained by the public purse.; The problem is that public sector tends to be bad at contracts and bad at being lean. I am sure the public sector would soon gobble up that 450m which is not a huge amount of money. G4S may be a good example for your point but not all are feckless and useless like them.
Invest in jobs, logic tells you the more people employed the less claim benefit and more pay tax; I agree with this, however most people who shout this one then advocate taxing the 'rich' at 50% or more and these would be the people who would generate the jobs. Government can assist but cannot create jobs. (unlike New labour who bought votes by bloating the public sector so leaving us in this mess we are in)
Cut what MP's can claim in expenses.; Couldn't agree more
New judge leaving the EU would be a financial disaster, the Torys own think tank in 2009 said we would lose a conservative 3m jobs (look it up)
No, it would not. The last costing of the EU membership in 2007 put actual cost art around 655Bn when taking into account loony laws and red tape. BTW quoting the Tories as if they are anti EU is a bit odd. It is not just tories who are sceptical.
Yes, youngmaf has identified the problem with the scaremongering that takes place when EU withdrawal is mentioned. There is no way that business with the remaining EU nations would suddenly dry up. Incredible as it may sound, countries outside the EU do manage to trade with each other and with EU nations, and so it would be with the UK. Additionally the UK would be free to develop business with areas of the world which are not stifled by the yoke of EU officialdom and which (unlike the EU) are experiencing healthy growth.
As far as pensions go these currently amount to about one third of the total benefits bill (about £75bn out of about £210bn). However, as I have said before, this is misleading. There are two types of State Pension recipients: those who have contributed to the National Insurance fund and whose pension is based on the amount paid in and those who have made little or no contribution. Their "pension" is nothing more than a renamed unemployment benefit and the sums thus spent need to be separated from genuine pension payments. Then the genuine pensions paid can be related to the contributions made and, more importantly, not classified as and lumped in with benefit payments.
As far as pensions go these currently amount to about one third of the total benefits bill (about £75bn out of about £210bn). However, as I have said before, this is misleading. There are two types of State Pension recipients: those who have contributed to the National Insurance fund and whose pension is based on the amount paid in and those who have made little or no contribution. Their "pension" is nothing more than a renamed unemployment benefit and the sums thus spent need to be separated from genuine pension payments. Then the genuine pensions paid can be related to the contributions made and, more importantly, not classified as and lumped in with benefit payments.
As far as I can see no one yet has suggested that we reduce the number of MPs, they could be cut by 50% with no adverse effect.
The Scottish Parliament, Welsh and Northern Ireland Assemblies. could also be closed down, and the Houses of Parliament used to house the various Ministries ie Ministry of Defence, Home Office etc.
Yes we hear of benefits being cut, talk of some of the elderlies benefits cut, public sector job losses, etc, etc. but up till now we have not witnessed the politicians suffer any hardships.
The Scottish Parliament, Welsh and Northern Ireland Assemblies. could also be closed down, and the Houses of Parliament used to house the various Ministries ie Ministry of Defence, Home Office etc.
Yes we hear of benefits being cut, talk of some of the elderlies benefits cut, public sector job losses, etc, etc. but up till now we have not witnessed the politicians suffer any hardships.
"...some people with special needs cannot use public transport new judge..."
Indeed they cannot, and they deserve all the help we can provide. I am not suggesting for one minute that all children with SENs are unworthy of special help. However (and it's a big however) I know of three children who are collected and returned home by taxi each day. They set off at about 8:45am (having to be roused from their houses by their (individual) taxi drivers - they're never ready and waiting). They return home by midday and spend the rest of the day roaming around. They have free bus passes and are often seen in the local shopping centre (having travelled by bus) in the afternoons. They have no difficulties walking, no mobility problems at all. Their "Special Needs" have come about because they could not behave at regular school. They argued and fought with their classmates and teachers, absconded during the day and were excluded, finally expelled.
Now the attend "special school" (which in fact they could walk to in about 20 minutes). Their parents all have cars and are not at work. Their misbehaviour (for that is what it is) has entitled them to separate schooling and means their parents are not even responsible for getting them there. If I know three there must be many thousands across the land.
If this is what taxpayers want their cash spent on that's fine. But nobody is told of these situations let alone asked whether that is how they want their taxes spent, and the way they are being resolved is absolutely ludicrous.
I know quite a bit about "special schools" having some friends and acquaintences who are connected with them. They are costing an absolute fortune and much of it is completely unjustified.
Indeed they cannot, and they deserve all the help we can provide. I am not suggesting for one minute that all children with SENs are unworthy of special help. However (and it's a big however) I know of three children who are collected and returned home by taxi each day. They set off at about 8:45am (having to be roused from their houses by their (individual) taxi drivers - they're never ready and waiting). They return home by midday and spend the rest of the day roaming around. They have free bus passes and are often seen in the local shopping centre (having travelled by bus) in the afternoons. They have no difficulties walking, no mobility problems at all. Their "Special Needs" have come about because they could not behave at regular school. They argued and fought with their classmates and teachers, absconded during the day and were excluded, finally expelled.
Now the attend "special school" (which in fact they could walk to in about 20 minutes). Their parents all have cars and are not at work. Their misbehaviour (for that is what it is) has entitled them to separate schooling and means their parents are not even responsible for getting them there. If I know three there must be many thousands across the land.
If this is what taxpayers want their cash spent on that's fine. But nobody is told of these situations let alone asked whether that is how they want their taxes spent, and the way they are being resolved is absolutely ludicrous.
I know quite a bit about "special schools" having some friends and acquaintences who are connected with them. They are costing an absolute fortune and much of it is completely unjustified.
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