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Should Ukip Be In The Next General Election Tv Debate?
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Here on AB generalities like expletives are meaningless and in fact show up the vacuity of the poster. Fortunately when we use them we can be challenged.
That's what's needed with UKIP they should stand their ground
in debate by debunking/disproving their opponents, something N Farage seems unable to do effectively. He also needs to acknowledge that some arrangement, if possible, with Europe could be desirable rather than total rejection.
At the moment UKIP comes over as a one policy party which is a dead end. They like all the other mini parties still harp on about AV and PR
which is also dead and won't be revived for another 20 years.
"And we all know that the anti-facist brigade do not like others expressing their own opinion".
Incorrect yet again, I shall explain once more:
No one is trying to remove your freedom of expression, but if you are going to continually upload potentially inflammatory posts that express anti-humanitarian intolerance, then you have to accept some strong opposition and swallow it. After all, by doing this you are asking for opinions and getting them, if you don't like the answers you get, then maybe you need to ask yourself why you relentlessly post this stuff (I think I know why).
Incorrect yet again, I shall explain once more:
No one is trying to remove your freedom of expression, but if you are going to continually upload potentially inflammatory posts that express anti-humanitarian intolerance, then you have to accept some strong opposition and swallow it. After all, by doing this you are asking for opinions and getting them, if you don't like the answers you get, then maybe you need to ask yourself why you relentlessly post this stuff (I think I know why).
"Here on AB generalities like expletives are meaningless and in fact show up the vacuity of the poster".
Ah the old "people who swear show their limited use of the English language" argument. Stephen Fry explains this one rather well I think.
Modeller, I could philosophise and pontificate until the cows come home and what's more I think you know it but sometimes short sentences with a bogus four letter word included can say it all IMO. I for one don't think that UKIP deserve anything more than a short sentence with the "C" word in it as I believe they are nothing more than the BNP with longer hair and nice suits.
Ah the old "people who swear show their limited use of the English language" argument. Stephen Fry explains this one rather well I think.
Modeller, I could philosophise and pontificate until the cows come home and what's more I think you know it but sometimes short sentences with a bogus four letter word included can say it all IMO. I for one don't think that UKIP deserve anything more than a short sentence with the "C" word in it as I believe they are nothing more than the BNP with longer hair and nice suits.
“I for one don't think that UKIP deserve anything more than a short sentence with the "C" word in it as I believe they are nothing more than the BNP with longer hair and nice suits”
I know you are aiming to be a little less sophisticated and a bit more succinct, but I really don’t know how you can say that, AP.
No need to dig too deeply, but just focussing on the issue of immigration, from UKIP’s “Aims”:
“UKIP alone holds that the rescue of the British people depends on withdrawal from the EU to regain our self-governing democracy so allowing the relief of business from crushing regulation and the less well off from the burden of taxes, shutting off the flood of immigrants and freeing enterprise.”
Do you really equate that with the racist bile that spews forth from the BNP? It may not concur with your Utopian vision of a nation which opens its doors too all-comers. But it hardly warrants “a short sentence with the "C" word in it “
If you believe that immigration (least of all, unfetterd immigration) is good for the well being of the UK then UKIP is obviously not for you. But to place UKIP on par with the BNP is not a sound argument, succinct or not.
I know you are aiming to be a little less sophisticated and a bit more succinct, but I really don’t know how you can say that, AP.
No need to dig too deeply, but just focussing on the issue of immigration, from UKIP’s “Aims”:
“UKIP alone holds that the rescue of the British people depends on withdrawal from the EU to regain our self-governing democracy so allowing the relief of business from crushing regulation and the less well off from the burden of taxes, shutting off the flood of immigrants and freeing enterprise.”
Do you really equate that with the racist bile that spews forth from the BNP? It may not concur with your Utopian vision of a nation which opens its doors too all-comers. But it hardly warrants “a short sentence with the "C" word in it “
If you believe that immigration (least of all, unfetterd immigration) is good for the well being of the UK then UKIP is obviously not for you. But to place UKIP on par with the BNP is not a sound argument, succinct or not.
Hi Modeller.
re:
"There were 18 mature answers to the original question and then your analytic five word tome including one expletive for further research and consideration"
If you consider my "five word tome" to be immature then you shouldn't have any difficulty subjecting it to "further research and consideration".
I eagerly await your critical analysis.
Please discuss (in detail) your reasons to negate (or support) my allegation that UKIP are a) a bunch of c**ts and b) that they they are nothing more than the BNP with longer hair and nice suits.
re:
"There were 18 mature answers to the original question and then your analytic five word tome including one expletive for further research and consideration"
If you consider my "five word tome" to be immature then you shouldn't have any difficulty subjecting it to "further research and consideration".
I eagerly await your critical analysis.
Please discuss (in detail) your reasons to negate (or support) my allegation that UKIP are a) a bunch of c**ts and b) that they they are nothing more than the BNP with longer hair and nice suits.
/// After all, by doing this you are asking for opinions and getting them, if you don't like the answers you get, then maybe you need to ask yourself why you relentlessly post this stuff (I think I know why). ///
It is not the answers that bother me, but it is your need to add insults and other expletives to your replies, as already pointed out to you by other posters.
Incidentally my reply was appertaining to your suggestions about fascism on AB. and in no way opposition to bona fide answers in opposition or otherwise.
It is not the answers that bother me, but it is your need to add insults and other expletives to your replies, as already pointed out to you by other posters.
Incidentally my reply was appertaining to your suggestions about fascism on AB. and in no way opposition to bona fide answers in opposition or otherwise.
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