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jake-the-peg
/// I can only imagine that if the same sort of tone were used towards ex-servicemen you'd be all spluttering with indignation and saying things like 'Is that any way to treat those who've served their country' ///
Now if I am coming over as rather superior then perhaps it is because you are beginning to sound so pathetic, anti-Daily Mail now introducing Ex-servicemen what next?
/// You come over as somewhat superior - viewing the unemployed as all a bunch of workshy layabouts who are achitects of their own demise. ///
Incidentally I have not mentioned the unemployed, for all we know they may be employed, but finding it difficult to find extra cash.
/// I can only imagine that if the same sort of tone were used towards ex-servicemen you'd be all spluttering with indignation and saying things like 'Is that any way to treat those who've served their country' ///
Now if I am coming over as rather superior then perhaps it is because you are beginning to sound so pathetic, anti-Daily Mail now introducing Ex-servicemen what next?
/// You come over as somewhat superior - viewing the unemployed as all a bunch of workshy layabouts who are achitects of their own demise. ///
Incidentally I have not mentioned the unemployed, for all we know they may be employed, but finding it difficult to find extra cash.
Some local perspective
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I must say that the housing associations actions seem very patronising and their non apology hasn't gone down too well either, judging by the comments.
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I must say that the housing associations actions seem very patronising and their non apology hasn't gone down too well either, judging by the comments.
They have apologised.
//Bosses apologised for any offence and referred to the wording of the message as 'clumsy'. The association said it had been campaigning over government cuts to welfare benefits.
In a post on their website, Eastlands Homes added: ‘We're sorry if our article offended you.
‘We know there will be stark choices - our message is that we are here to help wherever possible and we're sorry if we worded that clumsily.’//
//Bosses apologised for any offence and referred to the wording of the message as 'clumsy'. The association said it had been campaigning over government cuts to welfare benefits.
In a post on their website, Eastlands Homes added: ‘We're sorry if our article offended you.
‘We know there will be stark choices - our message is that we are here to help wherever possible and we're sorry if we worded that clumsily.’//
“I wonder if Age concern had targeted similar advice to pensioners to help them budget whether you'd have felt the same way?”
Yes I would jake if the advice had been directed towards “pensioners” who had not made the required NI contributions to qualify for their payments (and who, in fact, were simply receiving benefits unrelated to the level of their contributions).
“…you'd have forced me into stacking shelves at Tesco from which I'd have found it very difficult to get back into the IT sector.”
Indeed I would. There’s no reason to pay people to sit at home when jobs are available. And why would it have been any more difficult t return to your chosen profession whilst working elsewhere? Thousands of people do it.
Agreed the tone of the advice may not have been a delightful as it might. But the message is clear - people of limited means (whatever the origin of those means) must prioritise their spending and booze, fags, telly and bingo must rank below a roof over one’s head.
Yes I would jake if the advice had been directed towards “pensioners” who had not made the required NI contributions to qualify for their payments (and who, in fact, were simply receiving benefits unrelated to the level of their contributions).
“…you'd have forced me into stacking shelves at Tesco from which I'd have found it very difficult to get back into the IT sector.”
Indeed I would. There’s no reason to pay people to sit at home when jobs are available. And why would it have been any more difficult t return to your chosen profession whilst working elsewhere? Thousands of people do it.
Agreed the tone of the advice may not have been a delightful as it might. But the message is clear - people of limited means (whatever the origin of those means) must prioritise their spending and booze, fags, telly and bingo must rank below a roof over one’s head.
Far be it for me to agree with anything the ghastly Daily Mail says but I'm not sure exactly what is wrong here.
If we say that a pack of cigarettes cost about £6 and both parents smoke, and buy 1 pack a day each, then £84 a week is being spent ! That is £364 a month. My mortgage is only £340 a month !
Surely it makes sense for poor people who smoke, to at least consider giving up ?
It would seem that smoking makes people poor and keeps them poor.
Money is a bit tight in my house these days and I have had to give up some non-essential things, like foreign holidays and a nice car. But I'm a bit puzzled why poor people continue to smoke in such numbers these days.
A luxury that I am loath to give up is my Guardian every day. When I am in the newsagent of a morning, some people are coming in and buying 2 or even 3 packs of cigarettes !
Most educated people now do not smoke, when years ago smoking was found throughout the social strata.
Like Mr Marx once said ::: "Smokers you have nothing to lose but your chains" !
If we say that a pack of cigarettes cost about £6 and both parents smoke, and buy 1 pack a day each, then £84 a week is being spent ! That is £364 a month. My mortgage is only £340 a month !
Surely it makes sense for poor people who smoke, to at least consider giving up ?
It would seem that smoking makes people poor and keeps them poor.
Money is a bit tight in my house these days and I have had to give up some non-essential things, like foreign holidays and a nice car. But I'm a bit puzzled why poor people continue to smoke in such numbers these days.
A luxury that I am loath to give up is my Guardian every day. When I am in the newsagent of a morning, some people are coming in and buying 2 or even 3 packs of cigarettes !
Most educated people now do not smoke, when years ago smoking was found throughout the social strata.
Like Mr Marx once said ::: "Smokers you have nothing to lose but your chains" !
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