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Suarez "did Not Appreciate Seriousness" Says Football Association
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http:// www.bbc .co.uk/ sport/0 /footba ll/2231 1782
Is it correct then to assume that he was raised by a pack of wolves or that biting other people is deemed the norm in the part of Uruguay where he spent his formative years?
The outrage caused after the first time he did it (playing for Ajax) obviously did not register with him?
Is he really that stupid? Or is he playing the 'innocent foreigner in a strange land' card?
Either way he's completely disingenuous!
Is it correct then to assume that he was raised by a pack of wolves or that biting other people is deemed the norm in the part of Uruguay where he spent his formative years?
The outrage caused after the first time he did it (playing for Ajax) obviously did not register with him?
Is he really that stupid? Or is he playing the 'innocent foreigner in a strange land' card?
Either way he's completely disingenuous!
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Just in case you missed it in the link baz:
..noted that Suarez's tussle with Chelsea defender Ivanovic in the teams' 2-2 draw at Anfield on Sunday, had been "seen by millions of viewers both domestic and overseas, as well as generating a great deal of interest and debate amongst countless number of people".
"Whilst we accepted that Mr Suarez's reputation had been impacted, these unsavoury pictures would have given a bad image of English football domestically and across the world alike," it continued.
Just in case you missed it in the link baz:
..noted that Suarez's tussle with Chelsea defender Ivanovic in the teams' 2-2 draw at Anfield on Sunday, had been "seen by millions of viewers both domestic and overseas, as well as generating a great deal of interest and debate amongst countless number of people".
"Whilst we accepted that Mr Suarez's reputation had been impacted, these unsavoury pictures would have given a bad image of English football domestically and across the world alike," it continued.
If he had done what he did in any other context he would have been charged with, at least, common assault and possibly with assault occassioning actual bodily harm (ABH). The fact that the victim did not want to pursue the matter is irrelevant. The choice is not his it is that of the CPS. The victim's evidence is not needed as adequate evidence is available without him. The fact that Suarez was not prosecuted demonstrates yet again that "Planet Football" is not of this world.
Chilli, your fixation with this case surprises me. You being a rugby ref.(Apologies if I've mixed you up with someone else)
As you know, when rugby players get bit they end up in hospital, minus ears or nose tips.
Whenever violence flairs on the rugby field its serious stuff. Unlike the handbagging,rolling about on the floor nonsense displayed by the girls on the football pitch.
Also, if someone (really) bit you on the arm wouldn't you automatically punch them, as opposed to rolling on the floor (again)
As you know, when rugby players get bit they end up in hospital, minus ears or nose tips.
Whenever violence flairs on the rugby field its serious stuff. Unlike the handbagging,rolling about on the floor nonsense displayed by the girls on the football pitch.
Also, if someone (really) bit you on the arm wouldn't you automatically punch them, as opposed to rolling on the floor (again)
Not really fixated Svejk, just that as the FA have stated '...generating a great deal of interest and debate amongst countless number of people'.
Also, not sure what you mean by this:
if someone (really) bit you on the arm wouldn't you automatically punch them, as opposed to rolling on the floor (again)
From what I saw of the footage, Ivanovic's first instinct was to try and remove his arm from the attentions of Suarez. Punching isn't everyone's first instinct, stopping the pain would be. I didn't see Ivanovic rolling around but I did see the two of them stumble to the floor as Ivanovic tried to extricate himself from the grasp of Suarez. What did you see?
From his reaction I daresay he was as shocked and puzzled as the rest of us as to what was going on, just prior to realisation about what had just happened.
Also, not sure what you mean by this:
if someone (really) bit you on the arm wouldn't you automatically punch them, as opposed to rolling on the floor (again)
From what I saw of the footage, Ivanovic's first instinct was to try and remove his arm from the attentions of Suarez. Punching isn't everyone's first instinct, stopping the pain would be. I didn't see Ivanovic rolling around but I did see the two of them stumble to the floor as Ivanovic tried to extricate himself from the grasp of Suarez. What did you see?
From his reaction I daresay he was as shocked and puzzled as the rest of us as to what was going on, just prior to realisation about what had just happened.
It may not have broken skin, baz, but it certainly looked a nasty attack to me, not very pleasant and not something that I would expect a "professional" earning £5m pa to do. If that sort of behaviour is viewed as acceptable because it takes place on a football pitch then it only goes to reinforce my belief that football (aka "the beautiful game") operates in a parallel universe.
Is biting really that prevelant in rugby? Wiki documents 5 cases from around the globe, which does not to me seem to suggest that biting is any more prevelant.
And for those cases, those involved - who admittedly actually did some serious damage - loss of an ear/lobe, loss of part of a finger! suffered from long bans - 6 months, 18 months, 80 weeks.
Regardless of the extent of damage caused, a 10 week ban does not seem disproportionate to me...biting seems an especially feral response for anyone, much less a millionaire sportsman on a public stage...
And for those cases, those involved - who admittedly actually did some serious damage - loss of an ear/lobe, loss of part of a finger! suffered from long bans - 6 months, 18 months, 80 weeks.
Regardless of the extent of damage caused, a 10 week ban does not seem disproportionate to me...biting seems an especially feral response for anyone, much less a millionaire sportsman on a public stage...
baz, the important thing is that children may regard him as a role model. If it is ok for him to bite an opponent why should they not follow suit?
He should not be allowed back on a football pitch until he has completed an effective anger management course. He needs to prove that this behaviour will not happen again.
Have Health and Safety been involved?
He should not be allowed back on a football pitch until he has completed an effective anger management course. He needs to prove that this behaviour will not happen again.
Have Health and Safety been involved?
"the important thing is that children may regard him as a role model. "
in which case judging by on field antics that can be seen in just about any and every game should be a priority over this once in a blue moon non event hyped up out of all proportion due to a witch hunt re this particular player.
i watched this game with a twelve year old, who thought it was hilarious and was laughing at the time ...does he go around biting people now as a result ? no he doesnt.
theres far more "outrageous" events in most television programs
you going to ban them all ? course not
How many kids would have evenseen if the "meedjia" hadnt made such a big deal of it
some people really need to grow some and take off their "i'm outraged specs"
in which case judging by on field antics that can be seen in just about any and every game should be a priority over this once in a blue moon non event hyped up out of all proportion due to a witch hunt re this particular player.
i watched this game with a twelve year old, who thought it was hilarious and was laughing at the time ...does he go around biting people now as a result ? no he doesnt.
theres far more "outrageous" events in most television programs
you going to ban them all ? course not
How many kids would have evenseen if the "meedjia" hadnt made such a big deal of it
some people really need to grow some and take off their "i'm outraged specs"
would you have expected the likes of Bobby Moore, Jack and Bobby Charlton to have done such a thing, i suspect not. Why on earth is this man still playing, shouldn't the person who he took a bite out of pressed charges, or was he persuaded it wasn't in the best interest of his club and football, no wonder some despise those in charge and those who play and get paid millions, when they behave as badly as this. we used to go watch the rugby a lot, and there is rough play, but rarely that sort of vile nonsense, and if someone did something untoward, he was off and banned.
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