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Bedroom Tax
So, there's been a suicide because of the 'bedroom tax'. Poor woman couldn't afford the £80 per month for 2 empty bedrooms when her children left home. How many more before it's abolished?
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Well she didn't kill herself before the 'bedroom tax' was brought in which led her to believe she wouldn't be able to afford the extra £80+ per month, which meant she had to leave her home of 18 years. I don't think anyone gives a stuff about the £80 per week, they simply find it heartbreakin
12:17 Mon 13th May 2013
No-one who is in a right state of mind would kill themselves for want of £80 a month. There were surely underlying health issues, and this was just the straw that broke the camel's back.
Regardless of what you think of the change, dragging this in as an argument against it is dangerous, and oversimplifies the issue of suicide and mental health. Support is available: both for the mental health issues, and for people who are hit by this change in Housing Benefit conditions.
Regardless of what you think of the change, dragging this in as an argument against it is dangerous, and oversimplifies the issue of suicide and mental health. Support is available: both for the mental health issues, and for people who are hit by this change in Housing Benefit conditions.
Well she didn't kill herself before the 'bedroom tax' was brought in which led her to believe she wouldn't be able to afford the extra £80+ per month, which meant she had to leave her home of 18 years.
I don't think anyone gives a stuff about the £80 per week, they simply find it heartbreaking that they have to leave their home, which they have lived in for years and years. I think it's also slightly rude to imply that this is not a big enough deal for someone to kill themselves over, for some people their home is irreplaceable, just because I don't feel like that or you don't feel like that doesn't mean there is an underlying health problem, it means someone broken heartedly killed themselves rather than lose their home.
I don't think anyone gives a stuff about the £80 per week, they simply find it heartbreaking that they have to leave their home, which they have lived in for years and years. I think it's also slightly rude to imply that this is not a big enough deal for someone to kill themselves over, for some people their home is irreplaceable, just because I don't feel like that or you don't feel like that doesn't mean there is an underlying health problem, it means someone broken heartedly killed themselves rather than lose their home.
Well it's either that or she has been taken in by the misinformation spread by the media. Support was available, she need only have asked. That she did not suggests that she wasn't aware of this, which is the fault both of the media for bombarding her with scare stories, and perhaps too of the DWP for not getting the information out there. But, mainly, the media.
Even leaving one's house of years and years is hardly a rational reason for suicide. I'm sorry Sharingan, but there were underlying health issues.
Even leaving one's house of years and years is hardly a rational reason for suicide. I'm sorry Sharingan, but there were underlying health issues.
''I'm sorry Sharingan, but there were underlying health issues.''
Simply because she chose to do something which you wouldn't do? That is staggering arrogance don't you think?
I must be mentally ill as well then because there are a few things I would potentially consider taking my life over if the circumstances were right ( that however is not one of them) but I'm betting there are not many you would? That is because not all of us are the same.
Simply because she chose to do something which you wouldn't do? That is staggering arrogance don't you think?
I must be mentally ill as well then because there are a few things I would potentially consider taking my life over if the circumstances were right ( that however is not one of them) but I'm betting there are not many you would? That is because not all of us are the same.
Jim - She was living on the breadline as it was and this was the final straw, nothing to do with mental health. There was no other accommodation for her to go to either.
I agree with you Sharingan, but she just didn't have the £80 a month to pay the 'tax'. She couldn't afford to heat her home. To throw yourself in front of a speeding lorry is an act of desperation.
I agree with you Sharingan, but she just didn't have the £80 a month to pay the 'tax'. She couldn't afford to heat her home. To throw yourself in front of a speeding lorry is an act of desperation.
Why is it staggeringly arrogant? I have been there. Not in this situation precisely, but I have been there.
It was either mental health issues, or a gross and completely un-necessary overreaction that has perhaps scarred permanently the life of the truck driver who hit her. Which one of those is more polite to say?
There is no reason for anyone to kill themselves over this. An appeal to her local council would have seen them almost certainly give her the money she needed. That she did not means that this possibility did not occur to her, or she chose not to pursue it. Were she otherwise mentally healthy, this beggars belief. Take your own life without exploring other options? With mental health issues underlying, though, it's completely understandable. I almost destroyed my life for the same reasons, failing even to contemplate the idea that there might be someone to help. And, yes I was mentally ill at the time. I am speaking from experience, not from arrogance.
It was either mental health issues, or a gross and completely un-necessary overreaction that has perhaps scarred permanently the life of the truck driver who hit her. Which one of those is more polite to say?
There is no reason for anyone to kill themselves over this. An appeal to her local council would have seen them almost certainly give her the money she needed. That she did not means that this possibility did not occur to her, or she chose not to pursue it. Were she otherwise mentally healthy, this beggars belief. Take your own life without exploring other options? With mental health issues underlying, though, it's completely understandable. I almost destroyed my life for the same reasons, failing even to contemplate the idea that there might be someone to help. And, yes I was mentally ill at the time. I am speaking from experience, not from arrogance.
marje, //There was no other accommodation for her to go to either. //
She was offered three alternative properties.
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She was offered three alternative properties.
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