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Benefit's Capped By Number Of Children
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- Yes - 470 votes
- 84%
- No - 89 votes
- 16%
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Baldric
/// AOG, I've reread the OP, unless I'm missing something the Ed did not include the Third World in the Question, so if it's worrying you I would respectfully suggest youstart your own thread on the subject. ///
Try reading your own answer below to the Ed's question, it was this I was answering, and since this type of thing is regularly done by others on AB I do not need to start a thread of my own.
/// Let's be honest, why should whose of us who contribute via Tax, NI, etc have to pay to support the breeding habits of the feckless?
If you can't afford to support children, don't have them! ///
/// AOG, I've reread the OP, unless I'm missing something the Ed did not include the Third World in the Question, so if it's worrying you I would respectfully suggest youstart your own thread on the subject. ///
Try reading your own answer below to the Ed's question, it was this I was answering, and since this type of thing is regularly done by others on AB I do not need to start a thread of my own.
/// Let's be honest, why should whose of us who contribute via Tax, NI, etc have to pay to support the breeding habits of the feckless?
If you can't afford to support children, don't have them! ///
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The tax and benefits system should reward the behaviours and values that we as a society want to promote, not the behaviours and values we don't. In our modern society, having lots of children is a luxury, not an essential, and you should not expect the state to pay for your luxuries. I think capping after a second or perhaps (at a push) third child would be reasonable.
An alternative would be to not make it numbers-dependent at all, but start paying a fixed amount (say £100 per month at current rates) on the birth of the first child, and stop paying as the last child came of age.
An alternative would be to not make it numbers-dependent at all, but start paying a fixed amount (say £100 per month at current rates) on the birth of the first child, and stop paying as the last child came of age.
No, because "don't have children if you can't afford them" overlooks the possibilty not just of a large family falling on hard times -- as Naomi has mentioned -- but also of accidental pregnancies. What are people proposing if, say, a condom fails for whatever reason, or you happen to forget to take the pill while on benefits and end up falling pregnant again? Or perhaps that you have to give the baby up for adoption, or have to have an abortion?
Benefits aren't supposed to be paid out only to people who meet exacting moral standards, and should also go to those who have made mistakes or fallen on hard times through no fault of their own. In any case, a cap on benefits received by having too many children just ends up hurting the children.
The number of people who have children deliberately to get another benefit handout is certainly far less than anyone seems to think. Never mind the fact that you get all of £13.40 a week for additional children -- is that really going to cover maintaining another child properly and giving you a decent amount of extra money on top? I don't think so.
Benefits aren't supposed to be paid out only to people who meet exacting moral standards, and should also go to those who have made mistakes or fallen on hard times through no fault of their own. In any case, a cap on benefits received by having too many children just ends up hurting the children.
The number of people who have children deliberately to get another benefit handout is certainly far less than anyone seems to think. Never mind the fact that you get all of £13.40 a week for additional children -- is that really going to cover maintaining another child properly and giving you a decent amount of extra money on top? I don't think so.
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