Should This Kind Of Thing Be Allowed?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/jun/13/domestic-violence-police-partners-tackle

If it should be then surely men should be given an equal opportunity to find out about the past of their future partners.

[ummmm]

Of course it should work both ways. I wonder how many of the 80 calls a day are regarding domestic violence against a man ...

I know it does happen but men are usually more physically able to stop a woman being violent.

I'm not sure how this info should be given out though. Also not sure it would make someone leave a relationship. There are so many people out there that think they can change somebody and waste years of their life trying to do so.

[woofgang]

yes indeed there should be equality...I believe that statistically more women are abused in relationships than me, although it seems that men are less inclined to report it.
I wonder if this is an example of thoughtlessness though rather than deliberate inequity? Perhaps you should contact Mr Kavanagh and ask him?

[Baldric]

No way do I condone any sort of domestic violence, however I do find this slightly disturbing:-

///It means women who are entering into relationships with an individual they have concerns about will be able to ring the police to find out about them///

No mention is made of how they are going to Know who they are talking to,
a Nosy Parkers charter imo.

[jno]

better a nosy parker than a dead parker, I would have thought

[ummmm]

I doubt they'd give the info out over the phone.

[LazyGun]

This "dare to share" approach is being piloted in several police forces right now. Despite many efforts, domestic violence remains high. Over 80% of all recorded instances are men being violent to women. No violence should be condoned, and in some instances the violence is particularly savage.

If you read the background to the initiative, they do not specify women - rather, they say it is an initiative for anyone who wishes to check on whether a prospective or current partner has a history of violence.

This would seem to be a potentially useful initiative - and as I understand it, open to anyone, although women remain the overwhelming majority of victims..

[FredPuli43]

Quite right, aog, the sexes should be treated equally. There's lots of violent women about. It's good, too, that someone on AB stands up for equality of the sexes.

[woofgang]

Its all very non gender specific till you get to this quote
""It means women who are entering into relationships with an individual they have concerns about will be able to ring the police to find out about them – that is something we want to be able to provide. I want to see how we can bring this in countywide as part of our repeat victim strategy.""
I am guessing it was a slip of the tongue

[Zeuhl]

I believe you're right woof

My understanding is that anyone (male or female) who is entering into a relationship /with an individual they have concerns about/ will be able to contact the police to find out if they have a record of domestic violence

It is incumbent on anyone with a criminal record to have cleared that issue already with anyone who matters to them - or face the consequences if it is discovered

Just as it would be to declare convictions when applying for employment

[emmie]

it should be for both sexes if either are worried.

[anotheoldgit]

I wonder if we will be able to contact the police to find out if any future neighbours have fell foul of the law at any time?

[Zeuhl]

^
Only if you are planning an intimate relationship with them aog

[FredPuli43]

No need to ask around here, aog. It is judicially noted that everyone around here is well at it and that woman at number 94 is no better than she should be. You must live in a better area.

[anotheoldgit]

Perhaps future couples should be able to know why their future partner was divorced from their ex, then one could make a decision on whether or not they are likely to go down the same path with them?

[Zeuhl]

/should be able to know why their future partner was divorced from their ex/

Interesting idea

but what would be the documentary source of this independent, objective information?

i've never been divorced but i assume most divorces don't come with a jury's decision or a judge's summing up.

a conviction for domestic violence does

[Octavius]

The grounds for divorce in England and Wales are 'the irretrievable breakdown of the marriage' which may be shown by one of the following:

(1) Adultery
(2) Unreasonable behaviour
(3) Desertion
(4) Two years' separation with consent
(5) Five years' separation without consent

Divorce itself is a private matter and if the divorce is un-defended, the details of the unreasonable behaviour aren't made public.

So apart from finding out it was number 2, with no details, what purpose would that tacit knowledge serve?