Law & Order.

[Just-Jude]

With the recent uncovering of ethnic paedophile and rape gangs, did Jeremy Forrest become a victim of the justice system trying to prove that everyone would be dealt with equally? The length of sentence for his less than serious "crime" seems to confirm that.

[sherrardk]

He broke the law, he got caught, he went to jail.

[Peter Pedant]

Teachers cant erm s*rew their little and not so little charges and when they are pregnant, admit their mistake but say 'but it is only a little one'

[Gromit]

// less than serious "crime" //

Racist AND stupid. Well done.

[jno]

this wasn't paedophilia and it wasn't rape, so the analogy falls kind of flat. It was about abduction, carried out by someone in a position of trust.

[Just-Jude]

Gromit, why is it racist, all those cases have been through the courts!

Yes...less than serious crime, there was no rape or paedophilia involved, unless you want to believe the twisted logic of the CPS and the judge.

[jim360]

No, it was just child abduction. However willing, what must her parents, friends and family, and his own family have thought while they were running away and in hiding?

I don't understand why people are so keen to exonerate him of all blame. He showed serious misjudgement, and risked ruining her life as well as his. Yes it's a serious crime.

[Just-Jude]

"Yes it's a serious crime".

The joke doing the rounds in schools between students and teachers is please abduct me to France!

[jim360]

Which, neatly, demonstrates how immature many teenagers can be.

[THECORBYLOON]

He pled guilty to five sexual offences and the sentence he received for them was four-and-a-half years, six months longer than the minimum in the sentencing guidelines.

[Just-Jude]

Jim...and how immature adults can be if they think locking up teachers for years is the way to go.

[woofgang]

so what should be done? let him go and teach other kids?

[jim360]

If they commit crimes of course they should be locked up. And indeed for the offences committed he's serving close to the minimum sentence.

[sherrardk]

Would you be happy for your 14 year old daughter to be taught by a man who had previously had sex with his 14 year old pupil and then taken her to France without her parents knowledge?

[ummmm]

Suggest what should be done. Do you think teachers should be able to have sex with their pupils?

[Gromit]

Those charged with rape in the Rochdale case got between 9 and 19 years imprisonment. Forest got just 6 months more than the minimum sentence.

No, he is not a victim. He behaved wrecklessly and the sentence reflects that. Not sure why you needed to refer to "ethnic paedophile and rape gangs" as those cases are not comparable with this one.

[FredPuli43]

He got what was within guidelines. His own counsel didn't think it appealable. The maximum for the intercourse offences is 14 years each. If he didn't want the sentence, he should have applied the sense which we expect of teachers.

[sherrardk]

It's not that rare for a teacher to be jailed for having sex with a student - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/8378011.stm

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/teacher-jailed-for-sex-with-pupils-2262990.html

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/emma-webb-teacher-jailed-for-sexual-1471519

[Gromit]

^ ^

interesting that the two females in the links above got 32 months each.

[FredPuli43]

It may be that judges don't regard a boy being seduced by a teacher as being as serious as a girl being seduced by one, and, of course, neither woman abducted any youth from his parents and hid the fact

[Gromit]

Agrred Fred

But in the other link, the male teacher didn't abduct anyone either, but got 6 years.