Is The Edl's Tommy Robinson Sill On Bail?

[Gromit]

Anyone know?

He was arrested again yesterday headed for the London mosque.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-23110566

[Gromit]

Sorry, I don't mean bail. I mean, is he still wearing a tag, and will an arrest incur any further penalty.

[mushroom25]

if not, it could be because he's someone else this week.

[Gromit]

LOL. He was sentenced under the name of Stephen Lennon in January, and got 10 months. He was tagged in February, presumably when he was released. Will a further arrest now have an consequences?

[anotheoldgit]

Gromit

/// He was arrested again yesterday headed for the London mosque ///

Are you sure of that? i was under the impression that they were arrested today attempting to visit the spot where Drummer Lee Rigby was murdered.

Then they say wee live in a free country.

/// Two English Defence League leaders were arrested on Saturday as they attempted to visit the spot where Drummer Lee Rigby was hacked to death in broad daylight last month. ///

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/06/29/tommy-robinson-edl-arrested_n_3521450.html?view=print

[Gromit]

Yes, AOG I'm sure.

// A Met spokesman said: "At approximately 11.25am today, two men were arrested outside Aldgate East station for obstructing police.

The two men planned to pass East London Mosque on their walk from Hyde Park.

In a statement on Friday the Metropolitan Police said conditions were imposed "due to concerns that they may result in serious public disorder and serious disruption to the local community".

The organisers of the walk were offered alternative routes to avoid Tower Hamlets borough where the mosque is located but after they declined to agree the order was imposed, police said. //

When they broke the order, they were arrested for obstructing the police.

If the aim was to place flowers, there are a hundred different routes to Woolwich. Instead, the EDL have again hijacked Drummer Lee Rigby's death to further their political aims.

[mikey4444]

Mushroom, you are a caution and no mistake !

Thanks gromit...seems very sensible to me. And yes, an attempt at hijacking the event it would seem.

[jomifl]

Please explain why walking past a mosque would cause offence and why placing flowers at the site of a murder would cause offence. I can't help thhinking that anyone who is offended by these actions should themselves be locked up.

[mikey4444]

Jomifi...refer to Gromit above. The EDL are just out to cause trouble and the Police decided that the march, if taken in the way that Robinson, or Lennon, or whatever he is calling himself today, "may result in serious public disorder and serious disruption to the local community" They were offered different routes but refused the advice of the Police.

Not too difficult to understand surely ?

[jomifl]

mikey, please explain what would happen. Who are the police protecting? I am not an EDL sympathiser by any means but I think that too many people are having their freedom limited for no justifiable reason. If EDL break the law then lock them up, if not leave them alone, they are no more odious than some muslim clerics who seem to have more freedoms than most other UK citizens..

[THECORBYLOON]

Jomifil, what reasons do you think those two and no doubt hangers-on from the English Dense League had for wanting to walk past a mosque? If they wanted to have a sponsored walk, why did they not agree to the alternative route?

[THECORBYLOON]

It seems he was born Stephen Yaxley-Lennon known as Tommy Robinson but his passport is in the name of Paul Harris. Some folk (not me, OBVIOUSLY!) might think he was trying to hide his true identity and I'm sure that when he was arrested for having a passport in yet another name it was just one of those things. You know what like it is when you're rushing about getting ready go to America, you can't find your own passport so use someone else's, I'm sure we've all done it eh?

[jomifl]

Corby.. The British Legal system presumes innocence, give the EDL enough rope to hang themselves, if they can't manage it then let them be. How simple is that??

[jomifl]

/The organisers of the walk were offered alternative routes to avoid Tower Hamlets borough where the mosque is located./
When I lived in the UK I could walk along any street I liked (muggers notwithstanding) How does being a member of a political group determine where you can walk?

[THECORBYLOON]

Jomifl, would you not prefer the police to reduce the risk of trouble rather than wait for it to happen and mop up the mess?

[jomifl]

What trouble did You have in mind? This kind of logic could come from page one of the KGB manual. The UK is still a democracy isn't it? or have things changed that much or 5 years?

[THECORBYLOON]

What purpose did they have for choosing to march past a mosque?

[FredPuli43]

I am sure it was entirely accidental that the march was to be past the biggest mosque in East London. Remind me, wasn't there a time in the 1930s when somebody chose to march through an area associated with people they objected to? I am sure we passed specific legislation about that.

[FredPuli43]

Update: Mr Robinson, on being arrested, shouted at the police that they were enforcing Sharia law. Well, he does sound rational, doesn't he? He's not bigoted or racist or ignorant at all.

He ought to know that the police have a power to direct marches and crowds. An example is when they close streets near Twickenham rugby ground on match days. It is an offence to walk down those streets, contrary to the instruction, without reasonable excuse. ( I suspect he does know that, but, if he doesn't, he ought to)

[mushroom25]

the specific part of the legislation to which you refer Fred (Public Order Act 1936, section 5), and the offence it created (conduct conducive to breach of the peace) was abolished by section 9(2)(d) of the 1986 act.

[THECORBYLOON]

12 Imposing conditions on public processions. (1) If the senior police officer, having regard to the time or place at which and the circumstances in which any public procession is being held or is intended to be held and to its route or proposed route, reasonably believes that—

(a) it may result in serious public disorder, serious damage to property or serious disruption to the life of the community, or

(b) the purpose of the persons organising it is the intimidation of others with a view to compelling them not to do an act they have a right to do, or to do an act they have a right not to do,

(8) A person guilty of an offence under subsection (4) is liable on summary conviction to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 3 months or a fine not exceeding level 4 on the standard scale or both.

(9) A person guilty of an offence under subsection (5) is liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding level

he may give directions imposing on the persons organising or taking part in the procession such conditions as appear to him necessary to prevent such disorder, damage, disruption or intimidation, including conditions as to the route of the procession or prohibiting it from entering any public place specified in the directions.