More Lies From Cameron

[hawksley]

cameron says on tv, crime is down 9%, whilst still reducing the police force.
O YEAH...

[sandyRoe]

If crime is down by 9% then a reduction in police numbers seems logical.

[emeritus]

It has come from the Office for National Statistics not the PM

[emeritus]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23354168

[Sqad]

hawksley....who would you like your lies from? it can be arranged.

\\\\It has come from the Office for National Statistics not the PM\\

Ah!....so they must be authentic................

[heathfield]

87% of statistics are made up on the spot.

[VHG]

Cameron would have just been given the figures by the police force, they are not HIS figures.

However I have maintained for years that the reason crime figures are going down is that they are making it harder and harder to report crime, and even if you do report it nothing is done about it.

We used to have a police station in our local high street, but a few years ago they closed it down, so now nowhere to go to report local crime.

And we all know that for many crimes the police no longer bother to even attend the crime scene, or do anything to "catch" those responsible, so people don't bother to report the crime.

So no wonder crime figures are going down.

[factor-fiction]

Having watched footage yesterday of mods and rockers fighting in the 60s and football hooliganism in the 1970s, and remembered all the times my car windows were smashed by car stereo thieves and car thieves in the 1980s, I do feel figures for many types of crime are on a clear downward trend.
But I do think some types of crime are going unreported now and there are more telephone and cyber crimes and scams and financial frauds that don't get counted.
Overall though I believe that crime is falling

[factor-fiction]

" as a victim of crime the police view you as the problem for complaining about it"

In my experience and that of people I know, I see no reason to think that at all.

[ichkeria]

The ONS, in fairness, are merely stating that recorded crime is down, which presumably is true. It's the PM who is hailing it as good news, which it almost certainly also is. I can't speak for anyone else, but I'd never fail to report a crime I felt was worth reporting. I'd have thought it was easier, not harder these days as a matter of fact, but maybe I'm wrong.

[modeller]

It may be true about Reported crime, because unless the victim insists , it is not reported.

[DJHawkes]

it's easier now to report a crime through the new phone numbers they have for none emergencies, the calls get answered logged and passed on better, the old landlines were rubbish really and made you feel you were bohering them at work!

[jim360]

While statistics might be wrong, they are surely more likely to be right than any general impression. I don't know about most of you, but I don't spend my time touring the streets of Britain logging every crime that has taken place. Even those people who will now shout at me that I "don't live in the real world" have the same problem -- so why should anyone know better than the people who have bothered to try and investigate and measure this? Many crimes have always gone unreported, that will have been built into the data, and so on. Nor indeed will police only have started fiddling the figures recently.

So the figure is probably true, or at least far more accurate than anyone else will be able to manage. But then again Cameron ought also to have said that this is a trend that started in around about 2002, before he starts to take credit for it.

[naomi24]

It seems Dave can’t do right whatever he does.

[Peter Pedant]

Yeah

police numbers have nothing to do with crime stats
didndja know that ?

[modeller]

/it's easier now to report a crime through the new phone numbers //

This doesn't mean it is Reported as a crime. All that is logged is a a phone call. On two occasions I was the victim of minor crimes , in 2005 ,but because charges were not made , they were not Reported and didn't show up in police stats.
I'm not sure but cautions and warnings may not be listed either.

On another occasion when a security light was shot out I was told " Let us know if it happens again. " Yet another crime not reported. It's a farce !