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Is Cameron Setting Himself Up To Be Some Kind Of 'gay' Missionary?
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/// But he risked controversy by suggesting that his ministers should now fan out across the globe to spread gay marriage around the world. ///
/// ‘Many countries are going to want to copy this. I talk about how we’ve got to export more, so I’m going to export the Bill team.
/// 'I think they can take it around the world.’ ///
I don't think they will have much joy in the Middle East.
/// But he risked controversy by suggesting that his ministers should now fan out across the globe to spread gay marriage around the world. ///
/// ‘Many countries are going to want to copy this. I talk about how we’ve got to export more, so I’m going to export the Bill team.
/// 'I think they can take it around the world.’ ///
I don't think they will have much joy in the Middle East.
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Either that, or he actually believes in this - and it's been quite some time since we've been faced with a politician who seems to believe in a cause and is willing to follow through.
Good for him.
Will he have much in the Middle East?
Difficult to say - how many Middle Eastern countries are in the Commonwealth?
Either that, or he actually believes in this - and it's been quite some time since we've been faced with a politician who seems to believe in a cause and is willing to follow through.
Good for him.
Will he have much in the Middle East?
Difficult to say - how many Middle Eastern countries are in the Commonwealth?
1.1% of census respondants identified themselves as Gay or Lesbian
2.7% of 16-24 year olds
and 4% or so didn't answer
So let's say by rule of thumb something like 3-5% of the country is Gay
that's up to 3 million voters.
The Tory party's language of 'familly values' and the like has make them look very unfriendly in the past to Gay voters
Cameron is trying to move that image around - the message is familly values means people in Gay relationships too.
Yes he's alienating some in the traditional wing of his party - It won't please the 'Colonel Barrington-Smythes' in the Country but they'll still probably vote for him anyway.
Maybe he thinks its the 'right thing to do' but when that coincides with electoral advantage - well that's a marriage made in heaven isn't it?
2.7% of 16-24 year olds
and 4% or so didn't answer
So let's say by rule of thumb something like 3-5% of the country is Gay
that's up to 3 million voters.
The Tory party's language of 'familly values' and the like has make them look very unfriendly in the past to Gay voters
Cameron is trying to move that image around - the message is familly values means people in Gay relationships too.
Yes he's alienating some in the traditional wing of his party - It won't please the 'Colonel Barrington-Smythes' in the Country but they'll still probably vote for him anyway.
Maybe he thinks its the 'right thing to do' but when that coincides with electoral advantage - well that's a marriage made in heaven isn't it?
Yes, well if you read what the DM quotes him as saying you'll see that he thinks his "Bill team" should export the bill, help other jurisdictions in drafting their own laws. But the Daily Mail has to invent contention, doesn't it ? What would the readership do without being told of "outrage" or , here "risked controversy"? It is as though the DM thinks that the readers need to be told or encouraged what to think, and are incapable of judging a report for themselves.
3 million gay voters maybe, but they wont all be Tory or labour or liberal or whatever so the end result is probably minuscule. I would say he has a greater risk of alientating 'Mondeo Man' who, whilst he probably doesnt care one way or another on gay issues, will not be happy at the continuing harping on when the country is still in such a mess. DC needs to remember, 'Middle England giveth and middle England taketh' (And middle England is NOT 'right-on')
FredPuli43
it doesn't tell people what to think, it informs, the same as any other media outlet, perhaps it might be a little too informative for some who would rather see certain matters swept under the carpet, because they don't fit in with their own agenda?
Perhaps the Daily Mail web site should also be a 'no,no' on answerbank in case it might indoctrinate others in the glories of free speech?
it doesn't tell people what to think, it informs, the same as any other media outlet, perhaps it might be a little too informative for some who would rather see certain matters swept under the carpet, because they don't fit in with their own agenda?
Perhaps the Daily Mail web site should also be a 'no,no' on answerbank in case it might indoctrinate others in the glories of free speech?
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anneasquith
The problem that Cameron may not have anticipated is that he wanted to show the country that the Tories were no longer 'the nasty party', by pushing through this very progressive piece of legislation.
Instead, what has become apparent is that the Conservatives are a lot less nasty than they were...but many of them are still fairly nasty...
The problem that Cameron may not have anticipated is that he wanted to show the country that the Tories were no longer 'the nasty party', by pushing through this very progressive piece of legislation.
Instead, what has become apparent is that the Conservatives are a lot less nasty than they were...but many of them are still fairly nasty...
AOG
The Daily Mail lies.
Frequently.
Remember a couple of weeks back when it reported that primary school was 'ordering' parents to dress their kids in tracksuit bottoms?
That was a lie.
All the other news outlets reported the story factually (parents were being given the option to send their kids to school in trackies...IF THEY WANTED TO).
The Daily Mail...lied.
Why?
The Daily Mail lies.
Frequently.
Remember a couple of weeks back when it reported that primary school was 'ordering' parents to dress their kids in tracksuit bottoms?
That was a lie.
All the other news outlets reported the story factually (parents were being given the option to send their kids to school in trackies...IF THEY WANTED TO).
The Daily Mail...lied.
Why?
while the legislation is admirable, Cameron didn't actually invent it and can hardly claim ownership of it. We're well behind Belgium and Canada and just ahead of Nepal... and Scotland.
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