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And So It Goes On.
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Yet more exploitation of young girls committed by gangs of men.
Notice this isn't the Daily Mail stirring things up again, strangely they failed to report on it, or at least I cannot find any such report.
Yet more exploitation of young girls committed by gangs of men.
Notice this isn't the Daily Mail stirring things up again, strangely they failed to report on it, or at least I cannot find any such report.
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DJHawkes
It is true that prostitution is often organised for criminal gain and there is evidence that there was some financial gain in the three cases prosecuted. But the money made was relative small and not on the scale of the Russian Mafia. The money in the Pakistani cases was secondary, their primary motive was to have a supply of young girls for themselves to have sex with.
The three cases have been extensively investigated and successfully prosecuted. If there was an organised connection behind them, surely it would have been discovered by now?
It is true that prostitution is often organised for criminal gain and there is evidence that there was some financial gain in the three cases prosecuted. But the money made was relative small and not on the scale of the Russian Mafia. The money in the Pakistani cases was secondary, their primary motive was to have a supply of young girls for themselves to have sex with.
The three cases have been extensively investigated and successfully prosecuted. If there was an organised connection behind them, surely it would have been discovered by now?
Gromit
/// Rochdale, Deby, Oxford. Please name the other 5 you claim to know of.
Sub judice (such as in this Coventry case) means that details of the crimes cannot be reported, but it does not stop reporting that men have been arrested and charged and the area and how many charged. It obviously is a problem within the Pakistani community, but lets stick to the facts and not exaggerate. ///
No exaggeration Gromit.
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/// In 18 child sexual exploitation trials since 1997 – in Derby, Leeds, Blackpool, Blackburn, Rotherham, Sheffield, Rochdale, Oldham and Birmingham – relating to the on-street grooming of girls aged 11 to 16 by two or more men, most of those convicted were of Pakistani heritage. ///
There was also one in Oxford?
/// Rochdale, Deby, Oxford. Please name the other 5 you claim to know of.
Sub judice (such as in this Coventry case) means that details of the crimes cannot be reported, but it does not stop reporting that men have been arrested and charged and the area and how many charged. It obviously is a problem within the Pakistani community, but lets stick to the facts and not exaggerate. ///
No exaggeration Gromit.
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/// In 18 child sexual exploitation trials since 1997 – in Derby, Leeds, Blackpool, Blackburn, Rotherham, Sheffield, Rochdale, Oldham and Birmingham – relating to the on-street grooming of girls aged 11 to 16 by two or more men, most of those convicted were of Pakistani heritage. ///
There was also one in Oxford?
they might cosset their women, thought i don't know what that means exactly, that doesn't stop some of them from taking drink or drugs or swearing like sailors on a night out in a bawdy house. Some of neighbours are like that, a number have been arrested for drugs offences and some of the Asian lads are doing time for drug dealing and for running prostitutes, no different to any other community, just some hide it better than others, not in their case though.
From your link AOG
// The centre identified 2,379 potential offenders who had been reported for grooming since 2008. The vast majority were men. Most were aged 18 to 24. It could fully identify only 940 of the suspects. Of these, 38 per cent were white, 32 per cent were recorded as of unknown ethnicity, 26 per cent were Asian, 3 per cent were black and less than 1 per cent were Chinese. //
Nearly 40% white does not sound like it is just a Pakistani problem.
// The centre identified 2,379 potential offenders who had been reported for grooming since 2008. The vast majority were men. Most were aged 18 to 24. It could fully identify only 940 of the suspects. Of these, 38 per cent were white, 32 per cent were recorded as of unknown ethnicity, 26 per cent were Asian, 3 per cent were black and less than 1 per cent were Chinese. //
Nearly 40% white does not sound like it is just a Pakistani problem.
Baz, no it is not alright, but there has been an attempt to prtray this as just a Pakistani problem...
// why is it that only males from this group take advantage of the situation? //
// Quite right, but all breeds of vermin, not just one in particular. //
No sure why we should excuse the 40% white perverts, but some will.
// why is it that only males from this group take advantage of the situation? //
// Quite right, but all breeds of vermin, not just one in particular. //
No sure why we should excuse the 40% white perverts, but some will.
Of course the Pakistani (Asian) population are way over represented in the number of arrests for exploiting under age girls. The reasons for that I outlined on the first page of this thread. To summarise again, the asian girls are locked away safe, and they can easily find vulnerable white girls to take advantage of. The white males in the same towns and same age do not have that problem. They meet and sleep with girls and their parents are cool about that.
Some (a tiny minority) of young asian males resort to prostitutes or 'easy' girls for their gratification.
Some (a tiny minority) of young asian males resort to prostitutes or 'easy' girls for their gratification.
Gromit, //the asian girls are locked away safe, and they can easily find vulnerable white girls to take advantage of. The white males in the same towns and same age do not have that problem. They meet and sleep with girls and their parents are cool about that.//
That makes no sense. If an Asian man wants a white girlfriend – or a one night stand - I’ve no doubt both are just as available to him as they are to white men. These men don’t want either. Their intentions are quite different.
That makes no sense. If an Asian man wants a white girlfriend – or a one night stand - I’ve no doubt both are just as available to him as they are to white men. These men don’t want either. Their intentions are quite different.
Gromit
*** most of those convicted were of Pakistani heritage. ***
You asked for proof but then failed to address the fact that there were 10 such cases in Derby, Leeds, Blackpool, Blackburn, Rotherham, Sheffield, Rochdale, Oldham, Birmingham and Oxford.
/// No sure why we should excuse the 40% white perverts, but some will. ///
And who are these 'SOME' who would possibly excuse white perverts or any other perverts for that matter?
Now if you were to state that 'SOME' would rather bring into a discussion regarding Pakistani perverts, other groups of perverts, so as to somehow take the pressure off these Pakistani perverts, then I could name one or two on here who regularly do so.
*** most of those convicted were of Pakistani heritage. ***
You asked for proof but then failed to address the fact that there were 10 such cases in Derby, Leeds, Blackpool, Blackburn, Rotherham, Sheffield, Rochdale, Oldham, Birmingham and Oxford.
/// No sure why we should excuse the 40% white perverts, but some will. ///
And who are these 'SOME' who would possibly excuse white perverts or any other perverts for that matter?
Now if you were to state that 'SOME' would rather bring into a discussion regarding Pakistani perverts, other groups of perverts, so as to somehow take the pressure off these Pakistani perverts, then I could name one or two on here who regularly do so.
Gromit
/// To summarise again, the asian girls are locked away safe, and they can easily find vulnerable white girls to take advantage of. The white males in the same towns and same age do not have that problem. They meet and sleep with girls and their parents are cool about that. ///
/// Some (a tiny minority) of young asian males resort to prostitutes or 'easy' girls for their gratification. ///
Seems like you have a bit of a downer on 'WHITE' girls Gromit.
You assume that they are either 'vulnerable', 'easy', prostitutes, or their parents are not bothered who they sleep with.
Are you, yourself white, if you are, you don't show much respect for your own fairer sex do you?
/// To summarise again, the asian girls are locked away safe, and they can easily find vulnerable white girls to take advantage of. The white males in the same towns and same age do not have that problem. They meet and sleep with girls and their parents are cool about that. ///
/// Some (a tiny minority) of young asian males resort to prostitutes or 'easy' girls for their gratification. ///
Seems like you have a bit of a downer on 'WHITE' girls Gromit.
You assume that they are either 'vulnerable', 'easy', prostitutes, or their parents are not bothered who they sleep with.
Are you, yourself white, if you are, you don't show much respect for your own fairer sex do you?
Different nationalities seem to dominate areas of organised crime from time to time.
I recall 10-15 years ago it was all Albanian gangs running prostitution and human trafficking.
If I go back further it was all about Jamacian yardie gangs attacking each other with machetes.
Then there was all the panic about Chinese Tongs.
The point is there's nothing special about organised crime in one particular racial group.
The point you miss *as always* is the selectivity bias
If we get a native white british crime gang - nobody jumps up and down and says look at these dreadful british criminals.
You hold other nationalities to an impossibly high standard and post nationalistic rants when they fail to meet them
When people point out white British scum like Fred West, Ian Huntley in an attempt to highlight your error you ignore it or accuse them of being anti-British
I recall 10-15 years ago it was all Albanian gangs running prostitution and human trafficking.
If I go back further it was all about Jamacian yardie gangs attacking each other with machetes.
Then there was all the panic about Chinese Tongs.
The point is there's nothing special about organised crime in one particular racial group.
The point you miss *as always* is the selectivity bias
If we get a native white british crime gang - nobody jumps up and down and says look at these dreadful british criminals.
You hold other nationalities to an impossibly high standard and post nationalistic rants when they fail to meet them
When people point out white British scum like Fred West, Ian Huntley in an attempt to highlight your error you ignore it or accuse them of being anti-British
jake-the-peg
/// When people point out white British scum like Fred West, Ian Huntley in an attempt to highlight your error you ignore it or accuse them of being anti-British ///
That is a complete lie and well you know it.
I admit I have accuse you (as many other have) of being anti-British, but not for the reasons that you have stated here.
/// When people point out white British scum like Fred West, Ian Huntley in an attempt to highlight your error you ignore it or accuse them of being anti-British ///
That is a complete lie and well you know it.
I admit I have accuse you (as many other have) of being anti-British, but not for the reasons that you have stated here.
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