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As usual the "what can I be offended about today" brigade are out in force!
Sad sad people need to get a life!!
Sad sad people need to get a life!!
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Fred; Your, "those countries in Africa that receive our aid" does not deliver the implication he was intent on making. I suggest; "Why should the poor of this no-longer rich and in-debt country, give 8 billion pounds to the rich of a poor country, notwithstanding it having its own massive natural resources?"
It's a bit wordy, 'Bongo-Bongo land' is rather more succinct.
It's a bit wordy, 'Bongo-Bongo land' is rather more succinct.
I don't know about you, Khandro, but I'd like it if politicians were more coherent, wordier, and said things that didn't mean they'd have to spend time apologising later. I don't find "Bongo-Bongo Land" offensive, just a silly thing to say. If he had a serious point to make, and I agree with others who say that he did, then he should have made it seriously. In a way, by "saving time" in the speech he's given everyone a perfect excuse to distract themselves from the main point.
This could have been a debate about what happens to the aid we give to African nations. Instead it's turned into one about what he said exactly and what was meant by it.
Maybe he shouldn't have been so hasty in the first place -- spent time in the speech making his point clearly and uncontroversially, so as to save it later not having to defend such a strange comment.
This could have been a debate about what happens to the aid we give to African nations. Instead it's turned into one about what he said exactly and what was meant by it.
Maybe he shouldn't have been so hasty in the first place -- spent time in the speech making his point clearly and uncontroversially, so as to save it later not having to defend such a strange comment.
But Khandro, that's what he did say. He went on to say just that explanation. He did not use Bongo Bongo land for any more than 'Africa', unless he's extended the original meaning to "Africa and Asia". The rest of your words were covered by his saying why he objected.
So why did he use the expression?
So why did he use the expression?
I know - It's the Mail.
If only some of this is true then he may well have done us a favour by bringing up the issue regardless of his wording.
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If only some of this is true then he may well have done us a favour by bringing up the issue regardless of his wording.
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Still doesn't answer why he chose those words, does it, Khandro? He apparently thinks that is how ordinary people speak. Well, they did in the golf club or rugby club (one of his examples), 50 years ago, but today it sounds quaintly retro. You really don't need to be pinko to see that it has an element of "white man's superiority" in it , either.
What is the big deal?
OK perhaps now, the present time, that phrase along with certain words are deemed non PC.........fair enough. Us older generation who have used this phrase in not necessarily a derogate way.....will be dead.....problem solved.
There was even a song ...popular song which had the words:
"Binga, banga, bongo I don;t want to leave the Conga
Oh no no non no no"
A song.
When dignitaries visit certain African countries they are met with people playing the "Bonga Drums" as a welcome.
Not a big deal.........surely?
OK perhaps now, the present time, that phrase along with certain words are deemed non PC.........fair enough. Us older generation who have used this phrase in not necessarily a derogate way.....will be dead.....problem solved.
There was even a song ...popular song which had the words:
"Binga, banga, bongo I don;t want to leave the Conga
Oh no no non no no"
A song.
When dignitaries visit certain African countries they are met with people playing the "Bonga Drums" as a welcome.
Not a big deal.........surely?
For years, the muesli-munchers have been using 'faux' offence taking as a weapon to stifle views that don't chime with their own,
Last time we debated foreign aid they all disappeared onto a 'Champagne of the Week' thread.
There's the rub. If you've done alright out of Government Largesse why wouldn't you be comfortable with it.
Last time we debated foreign aid they all disappeared onto a 'Champagne of the Week' thread.
There's the rub. If you've done alright out of Government Largesse why wouldn't you be comfortable with it.
FredPuli43
/// We know what he meant, don't we? He means any supposedly Third World country that gets our money. By chance, they are full of black or brown people whose leaders spend it on Paris apartments, ///
Oh dear, I wonder if some would be so supportive if the Majority of Third World Countries were inhabited fully with white persons.
Stop forever playing the 'colour card', It is not the colour of a persons skin that persons get rather annoyed at, it is the way these countries spend our money.
/// We know what he meant, don't we? He means any supposedly Third World country that gets our money. By chance, they are full of black or brown people whose leaders spend it on Paris apartments, ///
Oh dear, I wonder if some would be so supportive if the Majority of Third World Countries were inhabited fully with white persons.
Stop forever playing the 'colour card', It is not the colour of a persons skin that persons get rather annoyed at, it is the way these countries spend our money.
"As usual the "what can I be offended about today" brigade are out in force!
Sad sad people need to get a life"
So you agree with the mental image of a black man with a spear, rings around the neck and bone through his nose as he played "Bongo" drums to communicate to others in nearby villages as this was the actual racist image he had in his head and which he was trying to portray to us.
Sad sad people need to get a life"
So you agree with the mental image of a black man with a spear, rings around the neck and bone through his nose as he played "Bongo" drums to communicate to others in nearby villages as this was the actual racist image he had in his head and which he was trying to portray to us.
naomi24
/// I listened to him being interviewed tonight on Channel 4 News, and basically he said he was referring to corrupt governments in third world countries. Sounds fair enough to me. ///
i think that the trouble here is the fact that these corrupt governments in third world countries happen to be inhabited by persons of a non white colour, that is why everyone is getting up tight about this incident, calls of racialism etc, If these corrupt counties happened to be white countries one could call them what one liked.
/// I listened to him being interviewed tonight on Channel 4 News, and basically he said he was referring to corrupt governments in third world countries. Sounds fair enough to me. ///
i think that the trouble here is the fact that these corrupt governments in third world countries happen to be inhabited by persons of a non white colour, that is why everyone is getting up tight about this incident, calls of racialism etc, If these corrupt counties happened to be white countries one could call them what one liked.
I'm pretty sure that many people would also agree with some of hitlers policies just not how he portrayed them as well. Are these things not said by anyone anywhere else on earth craft1948? Why not pick a better role model who's doesn't put their foot in it exposing them for who they really are and which right wing groups they sympathise with?
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