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sp1814 | 08:17 Fri 23rd Aug 2013 | News
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News contributors - I want to propose something...

For the next week, can we try altering our responses so that we only address the question raised, ignoring the temptation to score points, engage in one-upmanship, or make personal digs.

This isn't a criticism of anyone in particular, because God only knows I'm as guilty as anyone...

I just want to see whether it gets more interesting if we focus on the issues, and leave everything else aside.

In the spirit of this, I will not make disparaging remakes about the Daily Mail, UKIP, knuckle-draggers etc.

Of course, if it renders the News section boring, we can all go back to hurling barely disguised insults at each other.

Whaddya say?
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China DOll - I dont have a penis (so I can't one upman) so that should be easy.

Oh Dollie - if only that were true !

No not that you have a penis (or not) but that gurlz dont do oneupmanship. I went on a cruise a few months ago and (or because) I had forgotten how... girlie... gurlz on the ship could be. And were.

The men were cut down by intense sniper fire from the gurlz acting in formation of course and then for the rest of the week, the fun really began.
End of the AB......................Although a very good idea and real reason why people should post here but Few people just can't do that.
This thread should have been posted in the Site Suggestion section.
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Gromit

I'm not saying that any subject should be banned...just suggesting (and only for a week), a different tack on the way that we respond.
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"This thread should have been posted in the Site Suggestion section."

I wanted to engage contributors to the News section. Not sure how many actually read the Site Suggestion page.

Actually, now that I think of it - I didn't realise there was a Site Suggestion page...
It's an excellent suggestion. Douglas's 'best answer' here sums it up.

http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question1268665.html
Your idea has some merit and is worth serious consideration.

[i] real answer: It would take half the fun out of AB [i]
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naomi24

Yes - I see your point...and this is what I was referring to in one of my earlier points on this thread. It's becomes way to easy to just see personalities, rather than the question.

However, I would disagree with the 'pack mentality' accusation. The most long running threads are those where opposing views are put forward and challenged. Sometimes threads get overwhelmingly negative responses, sometimes they get overwhelmingly positive ones.
Agreed Naomi ^
Gromit is dead right. Worthy suggestion tho this may be I'm afraid it flies in the face of human nature. Really outrageous posts and questions can already be reported and or banned. And while many if not most of the questions here and elsewhere may not be real questions they often generate a debate with all that goes with that.
Naomi/Douglas

I am not sure that is a good example. AOGs question was sarky and bad tempered because of the reaction to a previous posting. He sort of got his retaliation in first and posters then obliged by being sarky and personal back.

There is a certain amount of animosity directed at AOG, but he is our most prolific poster so is bound to get a lot more replies, including negative ones. But he holds his own and gives out as good as he gets. Rarely does the leftie baiting or AOG baiting get nasty, and if it does, the mods quickly step in.
Even if as a whole we fail to alter our responses in the manner suggested, it might be worth trying, no? Who knows, it may even raise the quality of debate, but on the whole it seems to be pretty good already.
Having said it an't broke so why try to fix it, I will now contradict myself slightly.

We should try to encourage more new contributors to submit questions in the News. The same half dozen keep the section churning, but it can feel a bit repetative. New blood, new posters would shake things up. The small group that we are, we know each other too well and the debates are often contrived to wind the opposition up. A bit like PMQs.
Gromit

/// We should try to encourage more new contributors to submit questions in the News. ///

Couldn't agree more but as I have said many times before, most newcomers do attempt to take part in the News section, but are soon frightened away never to return, by the 'pack' mentality on here.
// newcomers do attempt to take part in the News section, but are soon frightened away never to return, by the 'pack' mentality on here. //

I see little evidence of that. Newcomers do occassionally pop up, but I do not think the 'pack' set upon them. I don't think that is the reason why they do not become regulars. Saying that, I do not know why they don't stay.
FredPuli43

/// Forget 'knuckle draggers' but surely disparaging remarks about the Daily Mail are always relevant. ///

No they are not, it just gets rather boring for the constant anti Daily Mail rantings that take place on this site.

The Daily Mail web site is one of the best news sites on the internet, it provides full depth reporting on a wide variety of debatable news stories, and it doesn't care who it attacks be them Tories, Labour, Lib-Dems, UKIP, or any other fringe parties, unlike some other newspapers.

But then perhaps that is why some dislike it, because it steps on too many toes.

So yes please feel free to attack the news, but never the messenger.
how do you attack news?
// newcomers do attempt to take part in the News section, but are soon frightened away never to return //

I notice Sharingan hasn't posted for over a fortnight. Is that what you mean?
// The Daily Mail web site... provides full depth reporting //

I beg to differ. They purvey slanted, biased, one sided, misleading, knee jerk, pandering to prejudices, highly targeted stories. Not full depth.

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