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Osborne says,the no vote on Syria,has not damaged relationship between UK and US is only HYPERBOLE, what the hell is he on about.???
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Cameron has been the cheerleader for intervention on the world stage. But he has stood the US up at the last minute. That is bound to make him a laughing stock in some quarters and mark him down as a leader who cannot deliver.
There is a suspicion that after years of doung nothing on Syria, that the PMs frenzied sabre rattling this week may have been orchestrated by Washington. That Cameron's pressing for an attack was more to get the US public to support an attack. Whether that is true or not, the result has left Cameron exposed and humiliated.
But thevspecial relationship will survive because it serves both our countries.
Cameron has been the cheerleader for intervention on the world stage. But he has stood the US up at the last minute. That is bound to make him a laughing stock in some quarters and mark him down as a leader who cannot deliver.
There is a suspicion that after years of doung nothing on Syria, that the PMs frenzied sabre rattling this week may have been orchestrated by Washington. That Cameron's pressing for an attack was more to get the US public to support an attack. Whether that is true or not, the result has left Cameron exposed and humiliated.
But thevspecial relationship will survive because it serves both our countries.
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Not sure that is correct. I have American friends who constantly refer to the 'Special Relationship' between the US and UK. Of course both countries have other special relationships as well, it is not exclusive.
It can be traced back to the post war period when Churchill coined the phrase during a speech in the US.
Not sure that is correct. I have American friends who constantly refer to the 'Special Relationship' between the US and UK. Of course both countries have other special relationships as well, it is not exclusive.
It can be traced back to the post war period when Churchill coined the phrase during a speech in the US.
The US political classes might feel a bit aggrieved at parliaments decision over action in Syria, but it will not substantively effect US-UK relations, as some commentators - and some UK politicians who were quite hawk-like in their desire for military intervention have been suggesting.
The appetite for military action by the US in Syria is not great amongst the US public, as best as I can tell, and Congress are already muttering that they wish they had the same ability to debate the issue and hold the executive to account as we do here following the vote in Parliament last night.
The appetite for military action by the US in Syria is not great amongst the US public, as best as I can tell, and Congress are already muttering that they wish they had the same ability to debate the issue and hold the executive to account as we do here following the vote in Parliament last night.
Wilson didnt go into Vietnam, never hurt the relationship.
Thatcher was extremely angry at Granada, didnt hurt the relationship.
In fact at the 'people' level we may actually have improved the relationship. Many Americans (not just the anti war brigade) do not want a conflict in Syria and will see this as support for them.
Thatcher was extremely angry at Granada, didnt hurt the relationship.
In fact at the 'people' level we may actually have improved the relationship. Many Americans (not just the anti war brigade) do not want a conflict in Syria and will see this as support for them.
It has had no effect, in fact it's probably helped. Obama knows that Cameron was always struggling with a load of liberal jellies and Tory wets. Then there is a Labour party happy to use the suffering of Syrians to score politically. Any damage is in the mind of wishful thinkers I'm afraid. Evene the frogs are wanting act, Cameron has just shown he tried but was overridden.
@3T Again with this tiresome tirade of yours against "The Left".
"Then there is a Labour party happy to use the suffering of Syrians to score politically."
What, you mean reflecting public opinion? Requiring that we have evidence rather than supposition before engaging in yet another military (mis)adventure? That we live up to our international treaty obligations and the rule of law and seek UN security council sanction first? Indeed, reflecting the disquiet amongst many within the right wing of UK politics.
Is questioning exactly what kind of military action by an outside force will actually aid the "suffering of the syrians" now just some kind of political stunt?
You persist in trying to turn every single issue into some kind of left-right ideological battle. Its simple-minded, offensive and tiresome.
The issue - a public call to sanction a military strike without the approval of the UN against a sovereign nation not actively threatening the life and liberty of the populations with the borders of either the US or the UK, called in some sort of hasty knee jerk response after years of inaction - transcends such a two dimensional ideological analysis.
"Then there is a Labour party happy to use the suffering of Syrians to score politically."
What, you mean reflecting public opinion? Requiring that we have evidence rather than supposition before engaging in yet another military (mis)adventure? That we live up to our international treaty obligations and the rule of law and seek UN security council sanction first? Indeed, reflecting the disquiet amongst many within the right wing of UK politics.
Is questioning exactly what kind of military action by an outside force will actually aid the "suffering of the syrians" now just some kind of political stunt?
You persist in trying to turn every single issue into some kind of left-right ideological battle. Its simple-minded, offensive and tiresome.
The issue - a public call to sanction a military strike without the approval of the UN against a sovereign nation not actively threatening the life and liberty of the populations with the borders of either the US or the UK, called in some sort of hasty knee jerk response after years of inaction - transcends such a two dimensional ideological analysis.
I think the special relationship ONLY existed with Maggie and Ronnie.
Not at all; it was very strong (thank goodness) during WW2.
The US however refused to back Britain's dishonourable Suez venture (thank goodness for that too).
And now Britain is refusing to back another US suicide mission. Thank goodness for that as well.
Not at all; it was very strong (thank goodness) during WW2.
The US however refused to back Britain's dishonourable Suez venture (thank goodness for that too).
And now Britain is refusing to back another US suicide mission. Thank goodness for that as well.