Preacher Arrested In Scotland For Preaching In The Street

[gordiescotland1]

Hi there
I was totally shocked to read this story it seems Christians are being persecuted in this country.

http://us2.campaign-archive2.com/?u=bed173cc9adfcad1e0e442a35&id=78a05531cc&e=e945178536
What do others think?

[jackthehat]

He was a (and I quote) "a gobby Australian Minister" who had complaints made about the amount of noise he was making.

So, the issue wasn't with what he was saying, more the manner in which he was saying it.

[gingejbee]

"gobby Australian"? Really? I don't believe it!

[trt]

The Muslims outside a London Mosque used to block an entire road on call to prayers on a Friday, with the police looking on, and they made a b1oody racket!

[wolf63]

I read this story in the Perthshire Advertiser earlier.

I am an atheist but like to think that I am reasonably tolerant of other people's religious choices.

I don't think that most people who go into town to do some shopping really want some person with a loud voice preaching to them.

Being religious and being a preacher doesn't make you either a good person or in the right (legal position).

If this guy was shouting about something else he would have been treated the same.

[vulcan42]

I love the piece right at the end of the article," If you wish to donate .......

[IggyB]

"Josh was taken to Perth police station, interviewed and released with a caution."

To receive a police caution you must accept that you are guilty - if you claim you are innocent then you can still have your day in court, so it would seem in this case that "Josh" accepted he broke a law in the end.

[craft1948]

You ought to hear some of the buskers here in York............they should all be locked up. It must be dreadful for the staff in the nearby shops to hear them murder the same songs over and over again.

[IggyB]

There is a video of him shouting in the street here:

http://www.thecourier.co.uk/news/local/perth-kinross/video-breach-of-the-peace-be-with-you-too-loud-perth-street-pastor-shepherded-into-police-van-1.133022

[mikey4444]

I think that Gobby and Australian just about sums this chap up. Wouldn't want to go shopping anywhere he "preaching"

[IggyB]

also the it would appear he wasn't actually given a caution just a warning.

Seems very rude behaviour on his part the way he shouts everyone down.

[Sqad]

I am rather fond of "gobby Australians"...............but not noisy gobby ones.

[wolf63]

Was he deported from Australia or did he think that we are all in need of spiritual guidance and has come to save us?

[mikey4444]

But are there any gobby Aussies that aren't noisy Sqad ? Most of them have been in my experience ( sorry in advance to any shy and retiring Aussies)

[mikey4444]

Sqad...I am sure you are old enough to remember Judy Collibar in Round the Horn.

[Sqad]

LOL...met many, many Aussies, most have them have been working with me..............I like them.

Perhaps that is explained by the fact that I am also "gobby."

[andy-hughes]

Having watched dozens of Police-style documentaries (no jokes about Sting please!) it is aparent that police officers do not take kindly to be contradicted about what is and what is not the law.

Tell a policeman you are not breaking the law when he says you are is pretty sure to get you an invite to 'help the police with their enquiries' as they say.

So - as jack says, it was not because this man is a Christian that he was arrested, or for spreading the gospel, as the Christian website would like to see it - but for being loud in pubklc, and then gobby with a bobby!!

Eyethenkyaou!!!

[sp1814]

"it seems Christians are being persecuted in this country."

Noisy Christians who won't pipe down even though multiple different people ask him to be quiet - perhaps they're being 'persecuted'.

Here's Rowan Williams take on the persecution of Christians in the West:

Christians in Britain and the US who claim that they are persecuted should "grow up" and not exaggerate what amounts to feeling "mildly uncomfortable", according to Rowan Williams, who last year stepped down as archbishop of Canterbury after an often turbulent decade.

"When you've had any contact with real persecuted minorities you learn to use the word very chastely," he said. "Persecution is not being made to feel mildly uncomfortable. 'For goodness sake, grow up,' I want to say."

I think he may have a point.

[Sqad]

andy...yes......we had worked that out.

But thank you anyway.

[anneasquith]

classic case of Australian-- phobia,

[andy-hughes]

Having played the clip, it is clear that although the man is blessed (?) with a singularly loud voice, it does not give him the right to disturb other people with it. The net result is that other people shout back at him, and everyone's peace is disturbed, hence the police involvement.

We did have a preacher in our market square who used a loud-hailer, and another who used a small P.A. system - neither of them have been seen recently - persecution?????????