Would You?

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2434752/It-Gods-plan-lives-Muslim-father-lost-wife-children-suspected-arson-attacks-says-angry-believes-paradise.html

If your GP referred you to a Neurosurgeon, would you be uncomfortable about the appearance of this consultant?

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leahbee......yes of course......sorry.....I can only think that cardio-vascular procedures were not performed locally.

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boxy...we seem to have lost the point of my OP, which was, both equally qualified, both equally surgically sound, then would you choose the bearded one.

initially many posters have said that appearances are not important, but as the thread has progressed, appearance issues have arisen..e.g beard.

[boxtops]

I don't mind a beard, but indeed, I'd like to know it was clean :-)

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boxy....I have seen very very few beards in surgeons, but one particular surgeon actually shaved it off for his consultant appointment interview, but after being appointed, grew it again........we never let him forget it.

[leahbee]

The hospital involved is Leeds General which you have probably heard of.
I just wondered why they are allowed to pick and choose which operations they will perform
It does not matter now any way ,if they were not confident enough to do it then why should we trust them. Is there a league table or something.

[Sqad]

leahbee........LGI never did cardiovascular procedure, they were always done at Killingbeck.....things may have changed recently.

It is the decision of the surgeon as to the advisability of operations and if he turns one down, then it is his prerogative.

There must be league tables somewhere, after all it is a Socialised institutiion, whether or not they are accurate, is quite another matter.

[hc4361]

It's a bit low to pick a person to pieces about his appearance when he's just lost his family.

I bet you are very thankful your patients couldn't see your mucky mind, sqad.

[boxtops]

Leahbee, it may be down to the way that operations are funded now, too, it's all changed since 1 April - the hospitals no longer decide what they want to do, it all depends on what the Clinical Commissioning Groups, and the National Commissioning Board, are paying them to do. Health organisations can only do what they have funds and capacity to deliver, and if the healthcare commissioners have paid another hospital, not Leeds GF, to undertake that operation, then Leeds won't have the funds to do it.

[craft1948]

The last consultant who operated on me was a very smart looking English gentleman................pity he buggered up the surgery.

[leahbee]

Thank you very much squad and boxtops.

[Svejk]

Sir Lancelot Spratt had a beard.

What if it wasn't a black or brown man but a white man with tattoos on his face and a ring in his nose. And what if it wasn't you but one of your children. Would you still be careless of appearances.
Lots of ifs'n'ans I know but I want to establish how right-on we are.

[bazwillrun]

" but moreover I find his conclusion that this tragedy was God's plan quite alarming. It doesn't inspire confidence. "

I take it he also thinks the outcomes of his ops are down to divine wishes and decisions as well....

[anneasquith]

I really don't care about his ethnicity, clothing. but any surgeon who has a beard like that, no I would not wish to be treated by them. sorry :(

[Zacs-Master]

I saw this gentleman speaking on the news and was very impressed by his faith and how it has comforted him. I believe he's going to work in Ireland and wants to help young people in particular.

[anneasquith]

zac, I believe this gentleman already works in Ireland, and came home when off duty.

[Gromit]

This man ha seen his wife and children incinerated and we are discussing, purely on his appearance, his compitence to do life saving operations.

A very disgusting and most horrible thread on AB for a long time.

[bazwillrun]

"A very disgusting and most horrible thread on AB for a long time"

you are entitled to your opinion, just as everybody ...oh hold on a minute

[pixie373]

How about a female surgeon? Would anyone feel less confident?

[sherrardk]

Himself has recently had serious emgency brain surgery and I, for one, couldn't give a toss what the surgeon looked like. However, it might be quite interesting to see what Mr Bell would look like after going through what Mr Taufiq Al Sattar has.

[hc4361]

Very well said, sherrardk.