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Shoot to kill
What are your views on this? Is there any alternative?
Obviously, the police tracking Jean Charles de Menezes last week believed he was dangerous, they believed he was carrying a bomb, and when he ran when apprehended, they believed he wanted to cause human death. Did they have any choice but to shoot him in the head?
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Look the point for me is not whether they had no choice to shoot him, the point is was it neccessary to shoot the fella 7 times in the head while he was already apprehended by collegues, thats not a anti police viewpoint thats something that privately many officers will be saying too and is a reasonable criticism..that many like me who is fully behind our police and security services in theiir fight against the terrorist scum... i agree i wish sometimes people will not turn this issue into a pro or anti war thing or a pro anti police issue....
4 years ago we were talking about them:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1468188.stm
what is wrong with tasers (other than the fact that a victim can still talk)
i would also point out Georgit that they didn't believe he was carrying a bomb initially or they would not have let him wonder for 2 1/2 miles around london.
"what is wrong with tasers (other than the fact that a victim can still talk)"
The problem with a taser and the reason to shoot him 8 times is it doesn't take much effort to press a button attached to a bomb. The point of shooting somebody is to stop them pressing the button.
Whats the difference between 1 and 20 shots. It's either one dead person or loads of dead people blown up by a bomb.
The problem with a taser and the reason to shoot him 8 times is it doesn't take much effort to press a button attached to a bomb. The point of shooting somebody is to stop them pressing the button.
Whats the difference between 1 and 20 shots. It's either one dead person or loads of dead people blown up by a bomb.
'It's either one dead person or loads of dead people blown up by a bomb'. Er, no, it was either one dead person or no dead people. Mr de Menezes wasn't a bomber. Latest news is that he wasn't wearing a heavy coat, either. And he didn't even jump a ticket barrier, he used his tube pass. Very gradually the misinformation is being whittled away, but obviously some people still think he must have been a terrorist or they wouldn't have shot him. Stop blaming the victim.
T'was tragic, everybody agrees, but nevertheless, I for one am pleased we have these men putting themselves in the front line, willing to take the risks that so many of us wouldn't be prepared to take ourselves.
Still, as you're happy to deride their efforts with flippancy, good for you - well done. I applaud you.
Re the number of bullets: I was under the impression that the police are issued low-velocity bullets if their weapons are likely to be discharged in a public place (less risk of pass-through that might hit a bystander). This makes it harder/impossible to kill with one shot. Besides which, people have shot themselves in the head and survived.
On an offshoot: Apparently a thousand people have filed past this guy's coffin. Why? His death was tragic, but have a thousand people filed past the coffins of any of the July 7th bombings?
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