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Why Weren't The Guardian And The Mirror Critised At The Time?
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/// "I'm disappointed we didn't hear the same outrage when the Guardian attacked David Cameron's father when he passed away after a completely spurious piece or the Mirror went through the dustbins of David Cameron to unearth the nappies of his disabled son, who has also passed away now. It seems to me that this should apply across the field." ///
/// "I'm disappointed we didn't hear the same outrage when the Guardian attacked David Cameron's father when he passed away after a completely spurious piece or the Mirror went through the dustbins of David Cameron to unearth the nappies of his disabled son, who has also passed away now. It seems to me that this should apply across the field." ///
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@ Emmie
"i am not defending them, it is not a false analogy,"
You are, and it most certainly is.
A strawman fallacy is where you attempt to refute a proposition by replacing it with a proposition of your own, superficially similar,and then refute that. Rather like comparing the antics of some upon hearing of the death of Thatcher with the bile, viciousness and nonsense that the Daily Mail are spewing out about Ralph Miliband, a dead academic.
"i am not defending them, it is not a false analogy,"
You are, and it most certainly is.
A strawman fallacy is where you attempt to refute a proposition by replacing it with a proposition of your own, superficially similar,and then refute that. Rather like comparing the antics of some upon hearing of the death of Thatcher with the bile, viciousness and nonsense that the Daily Mail are spewing out about Ralph Miliband, a dead academic.
Emmie,
I cannot see what the reaction to the death of Margaret Thatcher has to do with the Daily Mail's actions concerning Ed Milliband's father?
Some individual members of the public may have been happy about Thatcher's death, and showed it. That was a personal judgement. The Labour Party and Ed Milliband did not endorse it.
If Ed Milliband found himself with someone with a 'Witch is Dead' T-shirt, there is very little he can do. He cannot stop the photographer taking a photo and he cannot tell a member of the public to f*ck off. I have no idea if such a photo exists and if it does, what was said between the two.
To try and portray him as reveling in Thatchers death is the same lying trick that the Mail attempted last week. It is untrue. It is deliberately taking things out of context. It is a smear. And it is a deliberate false interpretation of events.
The Mail have been very stupid about this. They should have printed Milliband's rebuttal without comment. Instead, by repeating the false allegation and feeding the story, the have achieve the almost impoosible. They have got Ed a lot of sympathy from people who do not even like him. They are getting incredibly bad publicity.
I cannot see what the reaction to the death of Margaret Thatcher has to do with the Daily Mail's actions concerning Ed Milliband's father?
Some individual members of the public may have been happy about Thatcher's death, and showed it. That was a personal judgement. The Labour Party and Ed Milliband did not endorse it.
If Ed Milliband found himself with someone with a 'Witch is Dead' T-shirt, there is very little he can do. He cannot stop the photographer taking a photo and he cannot tell a member of the public to f*ck off. I have no idea if such a photo exists and if it does, what was said between the two.
To try and portray him as reveling in Thatchers death is the same lying trick that the Mail attempted last week. It is untrue. It is deliberately taking things out of context. It is a smear. And it is a deliberate false interpretation of events.
The Mail have been very stupid about this. They should have printed Milliband's rebuttal without comment. Instead, by repeating the false allegation and feeding the story, the have achieve the almost impoosible. They have got Ed a lot of sympathy from people who do not even like him. They are getting incredibly bad publicity.
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