Many on this site rightly or wrongly criticise the Daily Mail, but surely everyone should now congratulate the Sunday Mail on their investigation into this vile trade of Holocaust memorabilia ?
/// t was one of dozens of offensive items uncovered by a Mail on Sunday investigation. And within hours of being alerted to the item by this newspaper, eBay removed it from sale after conducting an ‘urgent investigation’. ///
//And within hours of being alerted to the item by this newspaper, eBay removed it from sale after conducting an ‘urgent investigation’. // Well done both.
I'm very surprised that this wasn't spotted earlier by the eBay moderators - I tried to sell some party poppers a while back and was told they weren't allowed. It must be something to do with how the items were listed that they got through to listing.
The trade is horrible - but I find people who glory in horrible things impssible to understand. Not in the same class at all, but why are so many people going to Hallowe'en events dressed as Jimmy Savile? It's just sick, not clever or humorous.
getting eBay out of the business will not stop the trade going on, unfortunately. It'll be driven underground, where newspapers will have to spenda lot more time an money following it up and exposing. Good luck to the Mail if they do this.
like boxtops, I'm surprised these weren't spotted by the site itself as they can't have been hidden. Most likely someone rang up the paper about it and a journalist spent an hour searching for "holocaust" on the site. So it's a useful revelation but not one that requred a lot of time or effort, and not really investigative journalism or an exposé. No congratulations needed, that's just a paper doing its job.
As I said, if they really do follow the trade up now that it's harder to do, or track down the people involved in it, they'll deserve congratulations.
Well I for one will congratulate those who exposed this seedy strand of what sadly is an obsession that abounds - there will always be those who wish to collect the horrific and macabre.
I often feel it is those with the least grasp of the true happenings, will it stop - no, but we can try.
If Neo-Nazis bought these items to gloat over them that would be truly sickening. But, as I asked earlier, if they were bought for a museum, say, would that be so bad?
/// I love the way the article tries to put the whole blame on eBay instead of on the sellers of the articles. ///
If you had read the article you would not have failed to notice that it wasn't just the Mail.
*** Rabbi Abraham Cooper, of the Simon Wiesenthal Centre in Los Angeles, said: ‘It is flat out disgusting for eBay, to profit from the prison garbs of Holocaust victims. ***
The Mail also reported the identity of one of the sellers.
*** The seller, Viktor Kempf, a Ukranian now living in Vancouver, Canada, ***
/// No congratulations needed, that's just a paper doing its job. ///
/// As I said, if they really do follow the trade up now that it's harder to do, or track down the people involved in it, they'll deserve congratulations. ///
They did track one down.
*** The seller, Viktor Kempf, a Ukranian now living in Vancouver, Canada, ***
My question would be the same as Sandy's. People are making a kind of assumption that only 'sickos' would buy such things. But if memorabilia of this sort is bought to remind us of what real sickness and depravity is...is that as bad?
It seems cynical to hijack a story like this and basically use it to try to rehabilitate the DM on AB. You might have fund people more praiseworthy of the Daily Mail for running the story if you'd not asked for it.
Ebay are being hypersensitive. I never buy on ebay, but if these items were offered for auction, I am sure that Jews would bid for them. One of my Jewish friends has a tattoo representing the mark that Jews in the concentration camps had with, I think, a number. Now, his grandmother's family had been gassed. He wanted to be constantly reminded of their fate. A Jew might well buy such items for the same reason.
/// but if these items were offered for auction, I am sure that Jews would bid for them. ///
Did you not read this, or are you just being selective with your reading?
*** Rabbi Abraham Cooper, of the Simon Wiesenthal Centre in Los Angeles, said: ‘It is flat out disgusting for eBay, to profit from the prison garbs of Holocaust victims. ***
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