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Cbi: Pro Europe. Pro Immigration
// The president of the UK's leading business group has attacked "factually incorrect, emotive debates around immigration", saying that the opposition to migrants entering the UK is affecting the economic recovery.
Speaking at the CBI's annual conference on Monday morning, Sir Michael Rake said Britain must show it is open to immigration, and demanded the UK remain in the European Union. //
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Surely this great man cannot be wrong?
Speaking at the CBI's annual conference on Monday morning, Sir Michael Rake said Britain must show it is open to immigration, and demanded the UK remain in the European Union. //
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Surely this great man cannot be wrong?
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He also said
"Each year, membership is worth £3,000 to every household in this country."
8 out of 10 firms agree
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"Each year, membership is worth £3,000 to every household in this country."
8 out of 10 firms agree
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The CBI also said that we should stay in the EEC and fight for change, rather than leave and not be part of it :::
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Time for a formal alliance with the Labour Party perhaps, instead of the Tories ? A previous CBI leader, Digby Jones, was made a Labour Minister, in 2007 after all.
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Time for a formal alliance with the Labour Party perhaps, instead of the Tories ? A previous CBI leader, Digby Jones, was made a Labour Minister, in 2007 after all.
How will importing even more immigrants in this country, who have nothing to give to this country help our economy.
Why do we even have need top import more foreign students, we have enough al ready who cannot get jobs that fits their years of studying?
Why do we need to import more skilled workers we do not have the jobs for those we already have?
No' big business' is all in favour of more coming to this country from abroad simply because most of them are prepared to work for much less wages than our own workers.
Most strange that those from the Left seem to be agreeing with their dreaded 'big business' on this issue.
Why do we even have need top import more foreign students, we have enough al ready who cannot get jobs that fits their years of studying?
Why do we need to import more skilled workers we do not have the jobs for those we already have?
No' big business' is all in favour of more coming to this country from abroad simply because most of them are prepared to work for much less wages than our own workers.
Most strange that those from the Left seem to be agreeing with their dreaded 'big business' on this issue.
Quite right AOG , we should keep all foreigners out and then wonder why our numerous unemployed aren't filling the vacancies.
Do you ever wonder whether people in, say, Texas, complain about labour coming in from, say, Illinois ? In this regard, the EU states are the same as the states of the United States; both have free access to labour..
Do you ever wonder whether people in, say, Texas, complain about labour coming in from, say, Illinois ? In this regard, the EU states are the same as the states of the United States; both have free access to labour..
Well he may not be wrong but his opinion may well be skewed.
We all know immigration is required, I think you will find most people will agree. However, it got out of hand under the last Government leading to criminals walking the streets and benefits being paid to those who have never worked a day in their lives for the UK.
I wold be very surprised if the president of the CBI meant these people, he means he wants cheap labour for the people he represents.
We all know immigration is required, I think you will find most people will agree. However, it got out of hand under the last Government leading to criminals walking the streets and benefits being paid to those who have never worked a day in their lives for the UK.
I wold be very surprised if the president of the CBI meant these people, he means he wants cheap labour for the people he represents.
But it is,tony. That is the principal reason for having a European Union of "member states". The UK is a state , as are France Italy, Germany and all the rest. They have free access to labour, so citizens of one can work in any other. The United States, as its name suggests, is exactly the same. Each state there has its own legislature and its own laws but all are part of, and subject to rulings concerning, the whole.
Cheap labour manages to live on even the basic wage. It is a shame if the unemployed British can't do the same; does that mean that we are paying them more than the basic wage, just for doing nothing ?
Of course 'cheap labour' doesn't always stay cheap. The keener and more able progress. The manager of the restaurant where I was last in Heathrow was an immigrant. He very proudly told me that he and his wife, also an immigrant, had just bought a house. He had started at the bottom of the pile. Do we not want such people?
Of course 'cheap labour' doesn't always stay cheap. The keener and more able progress. The manager of the restaurant where I was last in Heathrow was an immigrant. He very proudly told me that he and his wife, also an immigrant, had just bought a house. He had started at the bottom of the pile. Do we not want such people?
Fred said...
//Do you ever wonder whether people in, say, Texas, complain about labour coming in from, say, Illinois ? //
No, they complain about Mexicans, instead!
(Although somebody, somewhere, is making a killing by running their factories with illegal labour, willing to work for less than the minimum wage and only going through the motions of complaining about them...)
As AOG pointed out, the big corporations don't care where you're born or what country you work in, so long as you can mutter enough words of the local lingo to serve customers, energetic enough to put in 40-50 hours per week and don't have a clue what your own labour is worth, locally, only that it is more than you can ever earn 'back home'.
Clearly, the EU is not just big business' friend, it was probably their big idea!
//Do you ever wonder whether people in, say, Texas, complain about labour coming in from, say, Illinois ? //
No, they complain about Mexicans, instead!
(Although somebody, somewhere, is making a killing by running their factories with illegal labour, willing to work for less than the minimum wage and only going through the motions of complaining about them...)
As AOG pointed out, the big corporations don't care where you're born or what country you work in, so long as you can mutter enough words of the local lingo to serve customers, energetic enough to put in 40-50 hours per week and don't have a clue what your own labour is worth, locally, only that it is more than you can ever earn 'back home'.
Clearly, the EU is not just big business' friend, it was probably their big idea!
//he means he wants cheap labour for the people he represents.//
Immigrants are also subject to the minimum wage!
He wants people to be able to recruit from as wide a pool as possible to get the absolute best person for the job.
And I do hope that all of you despising foreign workers are driving cars made in the UK using diswashers and washing machines made in the UK
I really can't stand all the hippocrits talking about foreign workers taking our jobs while sitting in their kitchens surrounded by Bosh appliances with a VW sat outside in the driveway!
Immigrants are also subject to the minimum wage!
He wants people to be able to recruit from as wide a pool as possible to get the absolute best person for the job.
And I do hope that all of you despising foreign workers are driving cars made in the UK using diswashers and washing machines made in the UK
I really can't stand all the hippocrits talking about foreign workers taking our jobs while sitting in their kitchens surrounded by Bosh appliances with a VW sat outside in the driveway!
Hypognosis..America would grind to halt without its immigrant Hispanic workers. Drive across LA on the freeways...every other vehicle is a pickup with three Mexicans on board and the back filled withgardening/construction equipment.
California relies almost entirely on Hispanic workers to pick the fruit and veg, just like Britain !
That is why America has an immigration amnesty every now and then.
California relies almost entirely on Hispanic workers to pick the fruit and veg, just like Britain !
That is why America has an immigration amnesty every now and then.
We have debated this subject so many times here on AB. The vast majority of our immigrant workers are here to work. And they are here because there are vacancies for them. And there are vacancies because millions of Brits choose to remain on the dole, claiming benefits that all of the rest of us, including the immigrants, are paying for in our taxes.
Its even more true in America, which has nothing like the ingrained Social State and benefits that we have. Hispanic workers there work, not laze around on the Dole, watching the Jeremy Kyle show. They have no choice.
Its even more true in America, which has nothing like the ingrained Social State and benefits that we have. Hispanic workers there work, not laze around on the Dole, watching the Jeremy Kyle show. They have no choice.
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